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To: stfassisi
http://extra.shu.ac.uk/emls/iemls/work/chapters/heresy2.html#BT1

Those who have the power to murder with whom they disagree: "write history".

Do a word study in the LXX for Ekklesia it begins in Deuteronomy 4:10.

NAsbU Deuteronomy 4:10 "Remember the day you stood before the LORD your God
at Horeb, when the LORD said to me, 'Assemble the people to Me, that I may let
them hear My words so they may learn to fear Me all the days they live on
the earth, and that they may teach their children.'
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach Adonai
1,195 posted on 05/14/2008 8:33:25 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (you shall know that I, YHvH, your Savior, and your Redeemer, am the Elohim of Ya'aqob. Isaiah 60:16)
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To: DouglasKC
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1,199 posted on 05/14/2008 9:39:12 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (you shall know that I, YHvH, your Savior, a<nd your Redeemer, am the Elohim of Ya'aqob. Isaiah 60:16)
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To: XeniaSt

It seesm from your postscript that you consider the Hebrew more authentic or useful than a translation.

Wouldn’t the safest means of obeying Deuteronomy then be reading it strictly in Hebrew?


1,200 posted on 05/14/2008 9:40:01 AM PDT by Philo-Junius (One precedent creates another. They soon accumulate and constitute law.)
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To: XeniaSt
“”Do a word study in the LXX for Ekklesia “”

Old protestant argument ,Dear Friend. It means assembly.

It does NOT mean assemblies of various beliefs

These assemblies are VISABLE and ONE and they have always been united in the Eucharist believing that it is Truly Christ present Bodily

“See that ye all follow the bishop, even as Christ Jesus does the Father, and the presbytery as ye would the apostles. Do ye also reverence the deacons, as those that carry out the appointment of God. Let no man do anything connected with the Church without the bishop. Let that be deemed a proper Eucharist, which is [administered] either by the bishop, or by one to whom he has entrusted it. Wherever the bishop shall appear, there let the multitude also be; by the bishop, or by one to whom he has entrusted it. Wherever the bishop shall appear, there let the multitude also be; even as, wherever Jesus Christ is, there is the Catholic Church.” Ignatius of Antioch, Epistle to the Smyrneans, 8:2 (c. A.D. 110).

“The spouse of Christ cannot be adulterous; she is uncorrupted and pure. She knows one home; she guards with chaste modesty the sanctity of one couch. She keeps us for God. She appoints the sons whom she has born for the kingdom. Whoever is separated from the Church and is joined to an adulteress, is separated from the promises of the Church; nor can he who forsakes the Church of Christ attain to the rewards of Christ. He is a stranger; he is profane; he is an enemy. He can no longer have God for his Father, who has not the Church for his mother. If any one could escape who was outside the ark of Noah, then he also may escape who shall be outside of the Church. The Lord warns, saying, ‘He who is not with me is against me, and he who gathereth not with me scattereth.’ Cyprian, On Unity, 6 (A.D. 251).

1,207 posted on 05/14/2008 11:06:20 AM PDT by stfassisi ( ("Above all gifts that Christ gives his beloved is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi))
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