Posted on 05/02/2008 2:09:51 PM PDT by Augustinian monk
That is a distortion of the plain meaning of the passage. You have it exactly backwards.
***It was the Holy Spirit that closed the canon of Scripture.***
When and how?
***The Lord has ceased speaking in Special Revelation. If you deny that, then you deny the Westminster Confession of faith, the confession of we Presbyterians.***
In reading Scripture, I really don’t get the idea that Jesus was a Presbyterian. The WCF was a government-generated bureaucratic paper commissioned, bought and paid for by the Parliament of England.
The Apostles and their successors were Catholic. You may be proud that you’re not. Theologically speaking, where does that leave you?
***The Lord still speaks to me. I get “revelations” every day.***
Perhaps a hat lined with tinfoil might fix that.
I am not on your witness stand and I will not be interrogated by you.
LOL. Yes, it is "your opinion."
Meanwhile, according to the word of God, not so much.
And when we as sinners repent and receive the Holy Spirit, we too become FULL OF GRACE!
***But, then I haven’t been taught that 2000 years of Scripture & Tradition are worthy of payment for getting into heaven.
BTW, I’ll see your 2000 years of Scripture and add a few thousand years more in my Bible. ;^)***
You have been taught. You listen to other teachings.
PET: You continue to use that metaphor as a bludgeon
WHAT!?! It's just a "metaphor" that the RCC labels its priests as "another Christ?"
Does the Vatican know you've changed the rules from actual fact to metaphorical supposition?
Can the metaphorical Echarist be far behind?
***No error and Christ founded the CHURCH, men founded the Catholic Church. Big difference.***
Jesus founded the Catholic Church and the Holy Spirit commissioned it.
Where did your church start and who started it? I’ve had discussion with several Presbyterians whose churches are younger than I am and who were definitely started by men of this world for their own intents and purposes.
***And I would imagine that the original Apostles are rolling in their graves given what their “descendents” have elaborated on.***
You have quite an interesting imagination. I suppose that that also applies to your theology.
I have changed no rules.
AMEN, according to the will and purpose and decree of God alone, for His glory.
If I said that, you can show me where.
So is the RC belief that a priest is “another Christ” a “metaphor?”
Now you show how you simply follow the man-made history of the RCC. Christ did not found any church that man lays claim to - be it the RCC or the SBC. He founded the one true church, consisting of His sheep. We gather in local churches and call them we may.
The RCC tale of Peter and the apostolic succession is good for laugh, but not much else. It’s all made up, just like the name of your church and chair the pope sits in when he speaks “without error”.
***Yes, the RCC has been “doing it” wrong for a long, long time.***
We’re doing as Jesus directed us for a long, long time.
Recent Presbyterian cults have been doing it wrong for a short, short time.
***If it weren’t for people like Martin Luther, I would not have copies of the Bible in English. I would not be able to read and study the Bible for myself. i would have to depend on the clergy to interpret it for me. I would not like that.***
If you believe this out of ignorance, I would like to correct you. If you believe this out of anti Catholicism, I would like to laugh at you.
In post 185, you wrote: "You cited four passages from Scripture. None of them say 'filled with grace.'"
I maintain the meaning of all those verses is clear -- believers have been filled with the grace of God by the indwelling Holy Spirit.
You deny that fact.
Or are you just saying those four verses deny that fact, but that this truth is found in other verses of Scripture, in which case I would be happy to include those verses with the four I mentioned?
Do you believe Christians are filled with the grace of God by the indwelling Holy Spirit?
Hello Iscool; how’s the population of 1 doing?
***We have missed YOUR boat...We don’t want on your boat...***
It’s not our boat. It’s God’s. Unlike the backwards possessives practiced by most Protestants, we understand that we are God’s. He is not ours.
But then, unlike a lot of Protestants, we don’t keep Him on the hall stand and rub His head for luck when we walk by.
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