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To: WorkingClassFilth
Well, the scripture is the product of the Orthodox Catholic Church of the first century of Christianity. Of course, the Old Testament predates the Church, but it wouldn't be comprehensible without the New Testaament which the Church produced directly. There is nothing in the Holy Scripture that would lead anyone away from the Church.

I doo not think the Reformers were that interested in the Scripture. I disagree that Protestantism is faithful to it. The overriding desire of the Protestant reformers was to get rid of clericalism, which they saw as a bad thing. Logically, they had to propose another source of authority and so they invented the superstitious concept of sola scriptura. Then, they got to the task of finding interpretations of the Holy Scripture that were not pointing to a sacramental hierarchical Church. That was done by elevating some verses out of context, ignoring others and discarding a whole section of the Bible as not inspired. The scripture read in context, literally, verse by verse does not contain any contradiction with either Orthodox or the Catholic Church of today, and it contains plenty of contradition with several important Protestant doctrines. For example, both Sola Scriptura and sola fide are directly controverted by the Scripture and require amazing trickery of Protestant exegesis to explain away.

123 posted on 05/02/2008 7:32:32 PM PDT by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: annalex

Thank you for your replies. From what you say, though, you show yourself to be less concerned with what the man says than where he eventually ended up. As such, I can accept your position as an ardent Catholic defending what is supposed to be a conversion story.

Unfortunately, this man’s account leaves me no insights into the miracles of faith he has found - only blatant hypocrisy and a pathology of the self-serving ignorant life he left. To debate Catholicism and it’s extra-Biblical justifications would be an entirely new thread.

Thanks for your insights and time just the same.


131 posted on 05/03/2008 5:42:21 AM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (Don't cheer for Obama too hard - the krinton syndicate is moving back into the WH.)
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To: annalex
There is nothing in the Holy Scripture that would lead anyone away from the Church.

What about God is a spirit, and they that worship him must worship him spirit and in truth"? What about "By their fruits you shall know them"?

184 posted on 05/06/2008 4:11:30 PM PDT by firebrand
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