[hosepipe]

[ False dichotomy, if you're speaking about Catholicism. ]

I'm not speaking about roman orthodoxy ONLY but about all judeo-christian human interface.. What is God a moron?.. God knows where he is needed.. and where he is NOT NEEDED..

I've been to most denominations including various forms of orthodoxy.. The Holy Spirit is NOT NEEDED in almost all of them.. Not in the RCC alone.. If the Holy Spirit tried to change something it would not be accepted.. Most are playing church like children.. like a club with rules..

Sadly the Roman Orthodoxy is the one of the most scripted and hardened spiritual plays.. for the audience.. They need the Holy Spirit like a another hole in their heads.. Since the wafer becomeing Jesus is ONLY PRETEND anyway..

[Petronski]

If the Holy Spirit tried to change something it would not be accepted..

That is a very strange opinion.

Sadly the Roman Orthodoxy is the one of the most scripted and hardened spiritual plays..

Not hardened and not a play.

They need the Holy Spirit like a another hole in their heads...

Exodus 20:16

Since the wafer becomeing Jesus is ONLY PRETEND anyway..

Thank you for sharing your beliefs.

[Mad Dawg]

The reply so good, I gave it twice. Y,see, Doc, it's this tremor in my posting finger ....

The Holy Spirit is NOT NEEDED in almost all of them..

This is where I go spinning off into the void. I don't get it. Is there a place where the H.S. is not needed?

And on the other hand, there had to be dry bones before there could be a rattling and bone joined to bone and then skin and finally Spirit.

Sadly the Roman Orthodoxy is the one of the most scripted and hardened spiritual plays.

It feels like we're talking about two different things! That is not my experience of liturgical prayer as a Catholic, not at all.