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To: hellbender; Dr. Eckleburg; HarleyD; Alex Murphy; Gamecock

IN REMEMBERANCE . . .

hmmmm . . .

NOT

—in incorporation of me
—in transforming ingestion of me
—in integrative infusing of me
—in dynamic holy infection of me into every cell and fiber
—in miraculous transubstantiation of me
—in transforming digestion of me
—in monopolistic, market cornering ritualizing of me

No.

merely . . . IN REMEMBERANCE of me.


42 posted on 04/27/2008 8:41:13 AM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Quix
Your problem appears to be with a word... Remembrance. This word is an English translation. Let's look at what was being celebrated at the Last Supper... Passover.

In Passover, the Jews were instructed to remember the Passover at each celebration as active participants experiencing it for themselves. The Passover for the Jews was not some historical event they marked with outdoor barbeques, but a real and current event they celebrated in the present tense.

Understood that way, the way it was understood to Christ and the Apostles, makes the RC view more realistic.

51 posted on 04/27/2008 8:58:52 AM PDT by pgyanke ("Huntered"--The act of being ignored by media and party to prevent name recognition)
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To: Quix
The clear claim of Christ in Holy Scripture is that His true body and blood are truly present and distributed to those who eat.

Matt 26:

26While they were eating, Jesus took bread, gave thanks and broke it, and gave it to his disciples, saying, "Take and eat; this is my body." 27Then he took the cup, gave thanks and offered it to them, saying, "Drink from it, all of you. 28This is my blood of the[a] covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins. 29I tell you, I will not drink of this fruit of the vine from now on until that day when I drink it anew with you in my Father's kingdom."

Mark 14:22-25; Luke 22:15-20; 1 Cor. 11:23-26 offer more of the same affirmation.

"A Biblical view of the Real Presence rejects two aberrations. On the one hand, it is wrong to reject Christ's clear words simply because our fallen human reason cannot fully understand how it comes to pass. Any effort to make the "This is" something less than a clear word, as Reformed theology does by denying the real presence of the body and blood of Christ on earth, is a departure from Christ's words. On the other hand, it is also fruitless to engage in theories about how the body and blood are present in, with, and under the bread and wine. A dogma such as transubstantiation, as generally taught by Roman Catholicism, is not set forth by Scripture."

Theology and Practice of The LORD'S SUPPER Part I A Report of the Commission on Theology and Church Relations of the Lutheran Church--Missouri Synod May 1983.

http://www.lcms.org/graphics/assets/media/CTCR/Theol_lord_supper1.pdf.

Heb 7:

26Such a high priest meets our need—one who is holy, blameless, pure, set apart from sinners, exalted above the heavens. 27Unlike the other high priests, he does not need to offer sacrifices day after day, first for his own sins, and then for the sins of the people. He sacrificed for their sins once for all when he offered himself. 28For the law appoints as high priests men who are weak; but the oath, which came after the law, appointed the Son, who has been made perfect forever.

The bold is mine. The Lord's Supper is a means of grace accepted through faith by believers. Grace and faith are not reliant upon human effort, as they are gifts from God.

78 posted on 04/27/2008 9:30:06 AM PDT by xone
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