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To: wagglebee; Alamo-Girl; Alex Murphy; alpha-8-25-02; blue-duncan; Dr. Eckleburg; ears_to_hear; ...
Confidence in the Biblical evidence that Peter was NOT the foundational ROCK of Christ's church

is not at all necessary for rejection of great chunks of the RC edifice.

As I've articulated a number of times hereon . . . EVEN IF [which I don't for a microsecond believe] . . . yet EVEN

IF

The RC edifice HAD [which it hadn't] started out anointed with the fiesty pebble as head . . .

The anointing left the building early on.

imho, one of the main reasons the RC edifice has to pontificate at such intensity and great length about the PRESENCE in the wafer and wine

Is because HOLY SPIRIT'S PRESENCE has been relegated to a few micro pockets here and there in the vast edifice . . . .

while the political ecclesiastical magicsterical power mongers go merily on their way creating dogma out of black holes and maniacal magicsterical fantasies.

Propagandizing the faithful into believing the wafer and wine are as magical as Mary's hankies works pretty well to maintain a death grip on the RELIGIOUS serfs.

And, I can readily believe that God's gracious enough, that on occasion, He, Himself blesses the relatively few uniquely authentic folks in the vast edifice with a spiritual shot in the arm for their devotion TO HIM in such meditative rituals.

The RC edifice rubberized histories, rubberized 'Scriptures' and rubberized dictionaries will never be very convincing, to me.

The BEHAVIOR of the RC edifice from it's founding around AD400 to the present is further reason to maintain rather reflexive revulsion for great chunks of the edifice based on simple objective observation.

1,209 posted on 04/29/2008 7:36:13 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Quix

Real Presence was accepted Christian belief until Zwingli’s errors. Even Luther believed.


1,211 posted on 04/29/2008 7:38:17 PM PDT by Petronski (When there's no more room in hell, the dead will walk the earth, voting for Hillary.)
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