The Eucharist: The Body of Christ? ("Respectful Dialogue" thread)

Our Sunday Visitor (via Catholic Culture) ^ | 1/2005 | Marcellino D'Ambrosio, Ph.D.

[Alamo-Girl]

LOLOL!

[hosepipe]

[ You obviously have no interest in the subject of this thread. I will drop you from further replies and stick to the adults. ]

Yeah like you will entertain or even consider anothers viewpoint.. Except as a gambit to present your own 1600 year old arguments.. from a so-called "orthodox" dogma..

The battle lines are drawn and all thats happening is snipeing back and forth.. Except that some lurkers might enjoy the marksmanship.. Its like a paint ball faux war of words.. hurling colorful phrases..

SLAP SLAP WAKE UP man.. Do know where you are?..
This is NOT a seminary..

[Petronski]

You're the only one who has mentioned Calvin around here.

Irrelevant, even if true. It is you who mention his flawed interpretation of Scripture. Hint: it is not necessary to name him while doing so.

[Dr. Eckleburg]

"Built on the Rock the Church doth Stand"

AMEN!

Thanks for that joyous website.

[hosepipe]

[ I think you mean the other guy, Deniro ]

True.. I get my Popes mixed up..

[Alamo-Girl]

After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as [it is] in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread. And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors. And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.

For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you: But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses. - Matthew 6:9-15

Many of us skip right past that last part, so I included it to be thorough. In other words, if we continue to harbor resentments towards other people, we may as well be talking to a wall. The same point is made in Mark:

Therefore I say unto you, What things soever ye desire, when ye pray, believe that ye receive [them], and ye shall have [them]. And when ye stand praying, forgive, if ye have ought against any: that your Father also which is in heaven may forgive you your trespasses. But if ye do not forgive, neither will your Father which is in heaven forgive your trespasses. - Mark 11:24-26

The Lord's Prayer is a daily meditation for me and I presume it must be for you, too. So here's a question in return - when you say "give us this day our daily bread" are you asking God to give you more of the living Word of God, the filling of the Holy Spirit, more of the words of God, Spiritual discernment, etc.?

And when the tempter came to him, he said, If thou be the Son of God, command that these stones be made bread. But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God. – Matthew 4:3-4

To God be the glory!

[Petronski]

But in all seriousness - again I say, believe God. Love Him. Trust Him.

I do, and I will humbly pray He bless and keep you.

[Dr. Eckleburg]

Actually, I agree with Rome that there are other Christs. It's just that I agree with the Bible that other Christs are false Christs and anti-Christs.

LOL. Amen.

No King but Christ.

[Alamo-Girl]

LOLOL!

[1000 silverlings]

This one is the latest

[Alamo-Girl]

And I pray also for His peace, blessings and guidance for you and all your loved ones.

[Dr. Eckleburg]

In other words, if we continue to harbor resentments towards other people, we may as well be talking to a wall.

This is so very true, for several reasons.

1) Resentment hurts our own body and soul. It festers and brings nothing but ill will.

2) We're not to forgive because we're to forget wrongs done to us. We are to forgive because we don't adjuticate life; God does. And it is He alone who gives both mercy and judgment to whom He will.

"Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord." -- Romans 12:19

And for the Christian, Paul further adds this addendum straight from Isaiah...

"Therefore if thine enemy hunger, feed him; if he thirst, give him drink: for in so doing thou shalt heap coals of fire on his head." -- Romans 12:20

And this truth is stressed because it shows exactly how much God loves those who are His, called according to His purpose. Our righteousness, which is all of Him, will ultimately prove disastrous for those who are rebellious and seek to destroy what God has created.

Therefore, we are told to...

"Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good." -- Romans 12:21

All in all, it is the splendid plan of God to overcome "evil with good" for and through and by Jesus Christ risen from the cross.

[hosepipe]

I think I like this Pope.. He has some quality I like I cannot define.. Maybe he loves ONLY scripture.. or knows his garments are meaningless... or knows that Roman Catholism is a denomination.. or something like that..

Course I could be WRONG about all that.. I would like to think that there is something redeemable about him.. There could be you know.., I know maybe he likes Father Guiedo Sarduci's act(SNL).. that would show he not humor deprived..

Yeah, I think I will continue to like him.. Which means I will pray for him..

[1000 silverlings]

I will get our very own Dr. eckleburg to pass this message along. this is in fact Pope Lawrence of Suburbia, I think Glendale, but maybe Pasadena, that sounds more Italian.

[Dr. Eckleburg]

Nuts.

adjuticate

Adjudicate.

[1000 silverlings]

lol, if we can’t laugh at ourselvs, then what’s a gizzard for?

[Alamo-Girl]

What a beautiful essay-post! Thank you oh so very much for sharing your insights and thank you for those glorious Scriptures!

Truly, one of the hardest things any of us can do is to let go and let God. And yet there is real peace when we do.

Be careful for nothing; but in every thing by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known unto God. And the peace of God, which passeth all understanding, shall keep your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus. – Philippians 4:7-8

And strength, too, of a kind the world cannot understand.

Then he answered and spake unto me, saying, This [is] the word of the LORD unto Zerubbabel, saying, Not by might, nor by power, but by my spirit, saith the LORD of hosts. - Zecheriah 4:6

Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world. - 1 John 4:4

For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord. – Romans 8:38-39

Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou [art] with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me. – Psalms 23:4

To God be the glory, not man, never man.

[Alamo-Girl]

LOLOL! So very true, dear brother in Christ!

And every time I think about Adelie penguins, I'm confident our Lord has a wonderful sense of humor.

[pgyanke]

For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.

Which Bible includes this in Matthew 6?

[Dr. Eckleburg]

I think I like this Pope...Yeah, I think I will continue to like him. Which means I will pray for him..

Praying for and liking are two different things. 8~)

Ratzinger was known as "the pope's rottweiler," "the Enforcer," before he ascended to the papacy. He was in charge of maintaining Roman Catholic doctrine according to the Council of Trent which he happily re-affirmed.

He was also in charge of "investigating" decades of sexual abuses rampant in the RCC. Entire generations were born and died before he got around to being forced into admitting that "Rome, we have a problem."

He was also the pope who most recently declared that all Protestant churches are "defective."

Sorry, I do not think we are instructed by God to respect men who call themselves "another Christ" and who tell the world they are the head of God's church on earth and that they are "infallible" in matters of religion.

There are other names for men who make those errors. I think 1000Silverlings mentioned a few of them.