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To: FastCoyote

In response to your typically deceptive posting:

From the First Presidency and the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints:

• The Church reiterated on 6 April that it has no affiliation whatever with the Texas-based sect that has been subject to investigation by state law enforcement officers and child protective services in recent days, and whose leader, Warren Jeffs, was jailed in 2006.
• The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints discontinued polygamy officially in 1890. Some people left the Church to continue the practice of polygamy, or were excommunicated because they refused to give up the practice. Some of their descendants are found in polygamous communities today in various parts of the United States and Canada, but especially in the West. They are not members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
• [The late] Church President Gordon B. Hinckley stated the following about polygamy in the Church’s October 1998 general conference: “I wish to state categorically that this Church has nothing whatever to do with those practicing polygamy. They are not members of this Church. Most of them have never been members … If any of our members are found to be practicing plural marriage, they are excommunicated, the most serious penalty the Church can impose. Not only are those so involved in direct violation of the civil law, they are in violation of the law of this Church.”
• Some news reports, especially those outside the U.S., still fail to draw clear distinctions between Mormons and polygamous sects whenever stories arise about polygamy in the Intermountain West.
• The term “Mormon” is correctly used to apply ONLY to members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. “Mormon” should never be used to describe polygamous sects.
• Latter-day Saints are offended when elementary mistakes are made in the news media or when printed or posted photographs fail to make the distinction between the Church and polygamous groups.
• Elder [M. Russell] Ballard [of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles] stated: “You would think that after over 100 years, media organizations would understand the difference. You can’t blame the public for being confused when some of those reporting on these stories keep getting them wrong.”
• There could not be two groups of people more different. Mormons do not look like members of the polygamous group in Texas — they do not dress like them, worship like them, or believe the same things.
• The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is a global faith with 13 million members worldwide. We teach the gospel in 90 languages. There are members of our faith in every country. We are the 4th largest denomination in the U.S. We have donated over $1 billion in humanitarian aid worldwide. We operate Brigham Young University. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints could not be more different than these small, secretive, polygamous societies.


8 posted on 04/19/2008 1:20:21 PM PDT by Old Mountain man (Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice!)
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To: Old Mountain man

So, your reply is to repeat the same baloney? Weak.

Are you going to deny Celestial marriage is polygamous? Are you going to deny that Joseph Smith and Brigham Young started it? Are you going to deny that Mormonism (no matter what sect), is based on what must be the infallibility of Joseph Smith (else he is just a charlatan)?

Go ahead, pretend there is no link whatsoever between the FLDS and LDS, hide your head in the sand like usual. You aren’t even man enough to admit that Joseph Smith’s teachings led directly to child molestation and the pimping of daughters. Heber Kimbal anyone?


11 posted on 04/19/2008 1:56:58 PM PDT by FastCoyote (I am intolerant of the intolerable.)
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To: Old Mountain man
• The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints discontinued polygamy officially in 1890. Some people left the Church to continue the practice of polygamy, or were excommunicated because they refused to give up the practice. Some of their descendants are found in polygamous communities today in various parts of the United States and Canada, but especially in the West. They are not members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

The LDS suspended polygamy in order to have statehood, it did not repudiate it. There are people living the "principle" amidst the Utah LDS. No one turns them in, because they still believe it is a spiritual law

• There could not be two groups of people more different. Mormons do not look like members of the polygamous group in Texas — they do not dress like them,

You wear the same magic underwear..

worship like them,

You, like them have a temple closed to non Mormons, you have basically the same "spiritual ordinances" and practice the same dietary principles.

or believe the same things.

You both believe that god was once a man and that an observant mormon can also achieve godhood.

The difference is they do not think YOU can achieve godhood because you do not practice polygamy ( both Smith and Young believed and taught that polygamy was necessary for exaltation ). To them it seems you guys are the ones that sold your birthright for as bowl of porridge (citizenship)

13 posted on 04/19/2008 2:11:23 PM PDT by ears_to_hear
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