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To: sitetest
The difficulty with an English translation of Theotokos as "God-bearer" is that it doesn't really communicate the full meaning of the term.

The problem occurs when the term "Mother of God" is the accepted translation, it implies all kinds of things that just aren't true. For example, that Mary as mother of God has authority over God. Another example that Mary is the "Queen of Heaven", or "Queen mother of Heaven", or Mary is the wife of the Holy Spirit since it was through the Holy Spirit that Jesus was conceived.

If all these things become acceptable then believing she can magnify prayers, or aid in your salvation easily follow. I find no evidence of any of that in Scripture.

The term God-bearer is more on the mark in that Mary was blessed to be used by God for His plan of salvation. Mary does not bestow blessings on others because of this.

191 posted on 04/12/2008 2:59:57 PM PDT by wmfights (Believe - THE GOSPEL - and be saved)
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To: wmfights
Dear wmfights,

“The problem occurs when the term ‘Mother of God’ is the accepted translation, it implies all kinds of things that just aren't true.”

Maybe in your mind.

The problem for you is that Theotokos literally means “God-birther,” and humans who give birth are the mothers of the humans to whom they give birth.

The ancient doctrine set down at Ephesus is that Mary gave birth to God. She is, thus, the Mother of God, according to the voice of the entire Church Undivided.

You may object to the conclusion, but that doesn't permit a re-interpretation of what actually was pronounced at Ephesus.


sitetest

196 posted on 04/12/2008 3:20:19 PM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: wmfights

“The problem occurs when the term “Mother of God” is the accepted translation, it implies all kinds of things that just aren’t true.”

Perhaps the problem is not so much implication as inference.


305 posted on 04/13/2008 11:22:38 PM PDT by EDINVA (Proud American for 23,062 days.... and counting!)
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