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To: Quix

Do try to distinguish between your opinion and fact. Catholics do not believe Mary is a member of the Trinity. We do not believe she died for our sins, we do not believe she is God incarnate. We do not believe that she alone is Lord and Savior. We do not believe she rose from the dead after being crucified. We do not believe she is the Way, the Truth and the Life. We do not believe she is the great I Am. We do not believe that every knee shall bow and every tongue confess she is Lord. We do not think through her all things were made or that she is the first born image of the invisible God. We do not think she is truly present, body, blood, soul and divinity in the Eucharist. It is not her grace which acts through the sacraments. No one is baptized in her name. No one is forgive their sins in her name. No one becomes a priest to act as alter Maria.

We believe she is blessed amongst women. That she is full of grace. That she bore the person (both divine and human) of Jesus Christ within her womb. We believe she was conceived without sin through the saving merit of Jesus Christ. We believe she was assumed by His power body and soul in heaven. We do believe she can hear us and she does pray for us. We believe her faith is an example to emulate. We believe she is to be honored because of her role in salvation history. We believe she is the new Eve. We believe she is the New Ark of the Covenant. We believe in her we see the promises of God’s grace ,which is promised to all faithful, fullfilled.

The most precise description of our beliefs can be found in this prayer
“ Hail Mary full of grace. The Lord is with thee. Blessed are thou amongst women and blessed is the fruit of thy womb Jesus. Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us now and at the hour of our death. Amen.

If you don’t like that take it up with Luke, the council of Ephesus and the Church fathers. No doubt they acted out of ignorance and from their distance from actual Christianity.


703 posted on 04/14/2008 12:26:51 PM PDT by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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To: lastchance
Do try to distinguish between your opinion and fact.

The Game here is to present a false image of Catholicism and bash the false image.

713 posted on 04/14/2008 12:30:36 PM PDT by Petronski (Bitterly clinging to religion and guns here in Penna.)
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To: lastchance

Nice to see the first paragraph full of good Biblical truth.

I take your word for it that Most RC’s avoid such things.


728 posted on 04/14/2008 12:37:01 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: lastchance

Luke didn’t buy into all that malarky.


729 posted on 04/14/2008 12:37:57 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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