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To: roamer_1

The whole sinless thing makes no sense to me. If Mary, a human, can be made sinless, than why not all people?

Heck why not make Adam and Eve sinless, then none of this would have been necessary.

Yes, Mary made salvation possible through her obedience to God. But I don’t think for a second that God’s plans for salvation rested on the decision of one person. If Mary has refused, God would have brought it about another way. To presume that any person can frustrate the will of God is sheer arrogance.


168 posted on 04/10/2008 8:32:10 AM PDT by Truthsearcher
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To: Truthsearcher

Actually all people can be made sinless. That is what Christ’ atoning sacrifice on the Cross is about. We all can through grace, repentence and His mercy be freed from our sins. The problem is when we turn away from His will and fall into sin again. If we could not be made free from sin by His grace we would have no hope of heaven. None. Hell is our default destination.

So Christ died to take away our sins. He took away Mary’s sin ( in Catholic teaching) from the moment of her conception. He in His mercy, will I pray take away my sins as I repent.


196 posted on 04/10/2008 9:38:39 AM PDT by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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To: Truthsearcher
The whole sinless thing makes no sense to me. If Mary, a human, can be made sinless, than why not all people?

Heck why not make Adam and Eve sinless, then none of this would have been necessary.

Precisely true- There is a game afoot, and while God himself wrote the rules, He tends to play according to them, as can be attested by His attention to Hebrew Law in divorcing His wife "The House of Israel".

While we cannot fully understand the game at this point, we certainly can understand the rules- They are right there for all to see.

Yes, Mary made salvation possible through her obedience to God. But I don’t think for a second that God’s plans for salvation rested on the decision of one person. If Mary has refused, God would have brought it about another way. To presume that any person can frustrate the will of God is sheer arrogance.

There is some evidence that it would have to be Mary- in considering the ascent from the throne of David. Jesus bloodline needs to wind up in the high house of Judah, and that must hapen through His mother, as his legal 'father' was from a cursed line of kings.

That cursed line (Jeconiah) was necessary, IMHO, to complete the Prophecy that he would come from the House of Solomon. He was later legally adopted, supposedly into Mary's House, where He would have to be the eldest to have a righteous claim to David's throne... But that line comes out of the line of Nathan, not Solomon. That all being said, the matriarchal line would have to come from Mary's family, or so one could suppose.

291 posted on 04/10/2008 1:05:19 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit.)
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