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To: ArrogantBustard
[ That would be a lie. You're asking why folks don't lie about themselves. That's beneath contempt. It's appalling that anyone would even ask the question you just asked. ]

Not true... Not all RCC or EO's worship Mary, but some DO.. I know some of them.. Some even prostrate themselves before Saints.. or alleged pictures of Saints.. Denying it is silly and disingenuous.. Now if you cut them a blank check for reverence, thats another thing.. Buts its still idolotry.. nevertheless..

899 posted on 04/07/2008 12:04:58 PM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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To: hosepipe
Not all RCC or EO's worship Mary, but some DO.. I know some of them.. Some even prostrate themselves before Saints.. or alleged pictures of Saints.. Denying it is silly and disingenuous..

Unless they say "I worship Mary," how do you know?

Who are you to speak for what is in their heart if they say otherwise?

900 posted on 04/07/2008 12:09:34 PM PDT by Petronski (Nice job, Hillary. Now go home and get your shine box.)
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To: hosepipe
Entirely true ... anybody who is actually worshiping any entity other than the Blessed Trinity has committed apostasy. It's just that simple.

They're no longer Catholic or Orthodox. They're pagan.

Which leaves the actual Catholics, who worship only the Blessed Trinity.

So there it is ... the question was simply beneath contempt.

901 posted on 04/07/2008 12:13:58 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: hosepipe
Not true

So, if we stipulate that some RC's worship Saints (which I don't, but were I to) then I should admit that we all do and I do and that that's what we teach? That doesn't make sense. Paul VI once prostrated himself before some Orthodox Patriarch and kissed his shoesies. Is it silly and disingenuous to question whether Paul VI was worshipping the patriarch?

What we have here is a kind of provincialism. You guys are limited in your language of gesture and consequently you see a protsration and think it is "Latria" because you cannot imainge a portration for any other reason, while we have a far more expressive and enthusiastic language of gesture.It may not be disingenuous but it's silly.

Oh yeah, and mind reading. That good old Sola Scriptura evidently has room in it for overlooking what is said about how only God can see what's going on inside. Sola Scriptura when it doesn't interfere with the assault on the Papists.

Look how ugly this has gotten. And MY part in that is because when I lay out a lengthy discussion it is completely ignored and when I refute an argument I am told I am just in a sate of denial.

And then the general statement about how all Catholics Worship Mary is excused on the grounds that some prostrate themselves before images of saints.

This is not about the Truth. It's about winning.

917 posted on 04/07/2008 1:30:27 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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