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To: blue-duncan; Dr. Eckleburg; Mad Dawg; suzyjaruki; 1000 silverlings; wmfights; HarleyD
Jesus responds [in Luke 11], not by denying that Mary is blessed, but says in comparative terms those are greater blessed that hear and obey.

In fact, He does not say that anyone is greater than Mary, He simply says that Mary should be venerated along with others who hear and keep the Word -- that is, Him, -- but not for the physiological aspects of her motherhood. This is a prooftext for veneration of all saints, Mary chief among them. At least, this is how the Church reads this scripture; I am aware that alternative readings as well as misreadings, exist, but, again, my question is not to explain to me what the Protestant range of interpretations of the scripture is, but where the contradiction of the Catholic mariology is with the scripture.

There is no scriptural warrant for any one other than Jesus or the Holy Spirit interceding in heaven with the Father for mankind

First, there is a warrant: Mary intercedes in John 2, Timothy in 1 Tim 2 (the shopworn Protestant false prooftext for Mary not mediating) is instructed to offer prayers of intercession for all men; Jairus intercedes for his daughter. It seems that if Mary or Timothy can intercede on earth, they should be able to intercede in heaven, just like the angels do throughout scripture.

Second, I do not ask why sola scriptura people (who depend on warrants for chewing gum, apparently) do not venerate saints, I ask where Catholic praxis is contradicted in the scripture.

898 posted on 04/07/2008 12:04:42 PM PDT by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: annalex; Dr. Eckleburg; Mad Dawg; suzyjaruki; 1000 silverlings; wmfights; HarleyD

” my question is not to explain to me what the Protestant range of interpretations of the scripture is, but where the contradiction of the Catholic mariology is with the scripture.”

“I do not ask why sola scriptura people (who depend on warrants for chewing gum, apparently) do not venerate saints, I ask where Catholic praxis is contradicted in the scripture”

This request is similar to Pelosie requesting General Petraeus not to give them a positive report of the surge in Iraq.

“This is a prooftext (Luk 11:28 “But he said, Yea rather, blessed [are] they that hear the word of God, and keep it.”) for veneration of all saints, Mary chief among them.

There is nothing in the verses that says”Mary chief among them”. However, following that logic then all of the following should be equally “venerated” as Mary in RCC praxis.

Mat 5:3 Blessed [are] the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

Mat 5:4 Blessed [are] they that mourn: for they shall be comforted.

Mat 5:5 Blessed [are] the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.

Mat 5:6 Blessed [are] they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled.

Mat 5:7 Blessed [are] the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy.

Mat 5:8 Blessed [are] the pure in heart: for they shall see God.

Mat 5:9 Blessed [are] the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.

Mat 5:10 Blessed [are] they which are persecuted for righteousness’ sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

Mat 5:11 Blessed are ye, when [men] shall revile you, and persecute [you], and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.

Mat 11:6 And blessed is [he], whosoever shall not be offended in me.

Jhn 20:29 Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed [are] they that have not seen, and [yet] have believed.

Rom 4:8 Blessed [is] the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin.

Jam 1:12 Blessed [is] the man that endureth temptation: for when he is tried, he shall receive the crown of life, which the Lord hath promised to them that love him.

Rev 1:3 Blessed [is] he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time [is] at hand.


910 posted on 04/07/2008 12:48:28 PM PDT by blue-duncan
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