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I would enter here on this thread where angels fear to tread: Jesus called his mother “woman” because in His culture, it was a term of respect; one could say that its equivalent today would be “Lady”. I’m surprised that this fact of the culture and language use of Jesus’ time isn’t better known and taught among those who read and cherish Sacred Scripture. Also, from the four ways of understanding Scripture (literal, moral, analogical and anagogical), Jesus is letting us know—(those who heard Him in the real moment and those who will hear Him down the corridors of time)-—that there is a new “woman”. This new woman is the one who will counteract the disobedience of the first creature whom God said would be named “woman”. It’s in OUR present day culture that one may use the name “woman” as a term of lesser respect; the opposite was the case in the time, language

I am sure the term was not one of disrespect, however, He did use the term 'mother' when He turned her over to John.

So, the fact that during His ministry He never addresses her as such shows that their relationship had changed.

He made that very clear when He was told that His mother and brothers were seeking Him and He stated that His 'mother and brothers' were those who followed Him.(Matt.12:48-50)

502 posted on 04/04/2008 7:25:35 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration ("Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people".-John Adams)
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To: fortheDeclaration

I believe your answer to be a non-sequitur to your original post about Jesus calling his mother “woman”.

Also, it should be very clear to anyone who takes the time to really understand and apply the teachings of Jesus, that His mother was obviously the first to show the way of following Him—from her assent to the message of the angel, and throughout all the “hidden” 30 years of his life with her and Joseph in Nazareth.

Please note that she followed him during his public life as well—including being at Cana; also she was along the Way of the Cross and stood at the foot of the Cross. She was in the Upper Room at Pentecost.

There is no reason whatsoever to downgrade any part of her presence in the public existence of the Lord. One of the Seven Last Words of the Lord from the Cross were to Mary and to John the Beloved. He gave them to each other and in that more-than-symbolic action He gave her to all of us, and all of us to her.


503 posted on 04/04/2008 7:41:44 AM PDT by Running On Empty ((The three sorriest words:"It's too late"))
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To: fortheDeclaration
So, the fact that during His ministry He never addresses her as such shows that their relationship had changed.

We do not now know that, because we were not there at every instance that He addressed His mother, nor has every instance of Him addressing His mother during His ministry been recorded. In other words, you may call your mother one name during your private moments with her, and something else entirely in a public situation. All cultures have instances of that.

507 posted on 04/04/2008 8:50:40 AM PDT by Judith Anne (Don't just do something! Stand there!)
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To: fortheDeclaration
So, the fact that during His ministry He never addresses her as such shows that their relationship had changed.

You do not know that.

511 posted on 04/04/2008 9:11:37 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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