Posted on 03/24/2008 3:36:37 PM PDT by annalex
""It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life." -- John 6:63
2. Let us show, therefore as was proposed in the first place, that in the mass intolerable blasphemy and insult are offered to Christ..."1. By these and similar inventions, Satan has attempted to adulterate and envelop the sacred Supper of Christ as with thick darkness, that its purity might not be preserved in the Church. But the head of this horrid abomination was, when he raised a sign by which it was not only obscured and perverted, but altogether obliterated and abolished, vanished away and disappeared from the memory of man; namely, when, with most pestilential error, he blinded almost the whole world into the belief that the Mass was a sacrifice and oblation for obtaining the remission of sins. I say nothing as to the way in which the sounder schoolmen at first received this dogma. I leave them with their puzzling subtleties which, however they may be defended by cavilling, are to be repudiated by all good men, because all they do is to envelop the brightness of the Supper in great darkness. Bidding adieu to them, therefore, let my readers understand that I am here combating that opinion with which the Roman Antichrist and his prophets have imbued the whole world, viz., that the mass is a work by which the priest who offers Christ, and the others who in the oblation receive him, gain merit with God, or that it is an expiatory victim by which they regain the favour of God. And this is not merely the common opinion of the vulgar, but the very act has been so arranged as to be a kind of propitiation, by which satisfaction is made to God for the living and the dead. This is also expressed by the words employed, and the same thing may be inferred from daily practice. I am aware how deeply this plague has struck its roots; under what a semblance of good it conceals its true character, bearing the name of Christ before it, and making many believe that under the single name of Mass is comprehended the whole sum of faith. But when it shall have been most clearly proved by the word of God, that this mass, however glossed and splendid, offers the greatest insult to Christ, suppresses and buries his cross, consigns his death to oblivion, takes away the benefit which it was designed to convey, enervates and dissipates the sacrament, by which the remembrance of his death was retained, will its roots be so deep that this most powerful axe, the word of God, will not cut it down and destroy it? Will any semblance be so specious that this light will not expose the lurking evil?
These are my post on Calvin
Calvin and 1 Cor 2
Calvin and 1 Tim 2
Calvin and Romans 5, 1 John 4
Calvin and 1 Cor. 5
Calvin and John 6, 1 Cor. 11, Luke 22
If you see any defaming done in these posts, feel free to comment -- you ignored them the first time around.
“It is a mystery”
He gave the instruction a good year before the last supper. When was it instituted if it was to be taken literally and of eternal importance?
There is no mystery about the instruction. Jesus explains what he means that by “eating...and drinking” one has life.
53 Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you.
63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.
68 Then Simon Peter answered him, Lord, to whom shall we go? thou hast the words of eternal life.
It is by hearing his words, understanding and believing his words that one has life.
Traditions of Men
I’ll stick with the Church that Christ founded. Thanks anyway.
There’s too much sneering at Christ in Calvinism.
Not to mention that loopy predetermination garbage.
For example, the incidents in Acts 8:17 and Acts 19:6 are examples of the Sacrament of Confirmation, a Sacrament still celebrated today as it was back then, to whit: By a Priest, Bishop (or higher) laying his hands on a "disciple" (or believer), to seal them with the Gift of the Holy Spirit.
In Acts 13 however, we read how the Holy Spirit asked that "Barnabas and Saul be separated for the work I have for them". This "separation" can't be Confirmation, as that was already accomplished when Ananias layed his hands on Saul in Acts 9. Indeed, this "separation" was to do specific work the Holy Spirit had for them, work that obviously needed another Sacrament, the Sacrament of Ordination, which also involves the laying on of hands. This "separation" is accomplished in verse 3 where hands were lain upon them. Note, it wasn't until after this that Saul's name changed to Paul in Scripture, thus signifying the important event that had occurred in verse 3.
Further reading: Apostolic Succession (specifically point II) and Confirmation
Resist the temptation. God has provided a merciful way out of the mire of mysticism and tyranny -- Christ risen.
Wipe the froth off Calvin's mouth, and you find -- nothing(from the last reference in my above post)
What made you think he did not?
Picture is what's hanging over your couch. This is a holy icon.
Yes, some people believed in the wrong queen of heaven and some poeple believed in a wrong god whatsoever. What does it have to do with the real Mother of God and Queen of Heaven?
“CALVIN’S INSTITUTES: BOOK FOUR
Of the Holy Catholic Church.
Chapter 18
OF THE POPISH MASS
HOW IT NOT ONLY PROFANES, BUT ANNIHILATES THE LORD’S SUPPER”
Ahhhh, the 4th Book of Joseph Smith, I mean Calvin.
I’ll make sure I get to reading that after I’ve read the Bible and the Early Church Fathers and all of Marvel comics.
But He did not wanted it done through chimpanzees, at least according to the scripture I read.
LOL To your satisfaction perhaps.
I am not dazzled by giant bold underscore.
My vocation is married life; when we get out of debt my family will consider voluntary poverty.
He repented of his theft, suffered for it, defended an innocently accused, defended God against blasphemy, and prayed to Christ to get to heaven.
By me, the "original poster" you quote and yet forget to ping. How civil of you.
I drive alone in my car while listening only to Elvis on the radio as I head in only one direction home.
Get the picture?
Saved by grace alone through faith alone in Jesus Christ alone made known to me by God's word alone as the Holy Spirit alone illuminates the words on the page to bring me to the saving knowledge of Christ risen.
ALL glory to God.
"I will cry unto God most high; unto God that performeth all things for me." -- Psalm 57:2
Ping you?
You’re already here.
Yes. Traditions of Men.
Perhaps the insinuation is that these things are not good.
“Saved by grace alone through faith alone in Jesus Christ alone made known to me by God’s word alone as the Holy Spirit alone illuminates the words on the page to bring me to the saving knowledge of Christ risen.”
You say God’s word alone, yet castaway certain parts Calvin dislikes out of vanity. Speaking of Calvin, where in the Word is this cockamamy theory of predestination?
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