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LOGIC AND THE FOUNDATIONS OF PROTESTANTISM
The Coming Home Network ^ | Brian W. Harrison

Posted on 03/24/2008 3:36:37 PM PDT by annalex

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To: ovrtaxt
How can you understand Hebrew mysticism with Greek logic?

Good question. What does Athens have to do with Jerusalem? -- was the famous formulation of it.

The answer is, we can because universal Wisdom, -- the wisdom of Socrates and Aristotle, -- is of Christ also. "The spirit of the Lord hath filled the whole world (Wis. 1:7).

It is not coincidental that the New Testament was written in Greek, and the foundational version of the Old Testament, the Septuagint, is in Greek also. We are the new guests at the wedding.

181 posted on 03/25/2008 9:55:59 AM PDT by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: papertyger
Teenage Drama Queen

You got it, bro.

182 posted on 03/25/2008 9:57:06 AM PDT by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: papertyger
That wasn't the point of my post you responded to: apostasy was. Do you not understand the difference, or are you just avoiding?

2nd Peter, from which my text is taken, IS about apostasy. Peter is saying our guide is the word handed down by the prophets, our Lord, and the apostles. There is nothing to avoid.

183 posted on 03/25/2008 9:57:50 AM PDT by HarleyD
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To: Quix
Clearly, distinguishing between the Hale Bop idiocies and serious UFO research ...

Difference.

Hmmmmmm.

:oD

184 posted on 03/25/2008 9:59:13 AM PDT by papertyger (changing words quickly metastasizes into changing facts -- Ann Coulter)
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To: Gamecock; Dr. Eckleburg; HarleyD
And in your statement we see the fundamental error of Rome: the confusion of the law and the Gospel.

There is a Catholic Church that I pass by ocassionally, that features a large banner posted on the building outside. It's message reads:

Obey the Ten Commandments
for Everlasting Life

If that isn't "confusing the law and the Gospel", I don't know what is.

185 posted on 03/25/2008 10:00:16 AM PDT by Alex Murphy ("Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?" -- Galatians 4:16)
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To: HarleyD; Alex Murphy; NYer; Salvation

Thanks, Harley. In fact, I have a simple principle for these Catohlic conversion series: originally I pinged Alex, NYer and Salvation because they have large ping lists. Some of the three pinged their lists, and some didn’t, and since then I simply ping everyone who posted anything. So you are in, ipso facto of your posting.


186 posted on 03/25/2008 10:00:24 AM PDT by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: Alex Murphy

Hmmmmm....I’d sure like to read that last one. ;O)


187 posted on 03/25/2008 10:00:39 AM PDT by HarleyD
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To: annalex

Much appreciate the points added to my Heavenly account.

Thanks.


188 posted on 03/25/2008 10:02:55 AM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: HarleyD; Dr. Eckleburg; Alex Murphy; Gamecock; Ottofire; Quix; Alamo-Girl; blue-duncan; wmfights
Author: the Holy Spirit Himself is an extra-Biblical authority as much as a Pope or Council

Harley: This is one of the most appalling displays of ignorance I have seen in writing

I'd say the author's remark is self-evident. Did the Holy Spirit produce a biblical ID (whatever it might be) when it allegedly advised Rev. Calvin, who disagreed with Luther, who disagreed with the 1500 years of the Church?

If the Holy Spirit authenticates any scriptural interpretation, then it is by this very fact is an extra-scriptural authority.

189 posted on 03/25/2008 10:06:58 AM PDT by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: Always Right
Luther did not truncate them, but that was done by Jews

What the Jews did to their canon should not be of consequence to us; yet Luther was the one who switched to their canon.

190 posted on 03/25/2008 10:09:50 AM PDT by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
Assuming the truth of chr*stianity is no different than assuming the truth of Protestantism.

There is no linearity here. The Jews had the revelation of God available to them prior to the Incarnation of Christ. But Luther had the revelation of Christ and denied it.

191 posted on 03/25/2008 10:12:06 AM PDT by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: wmfights; HarleyD; Dr. Eckleburg; Alex Murphy; Gamecock; Ottofire; Quix; Alamo-Girl; blue-duncan
any Christian will find the NT was pretty well established way before any synods, or councils.

Yes. By whom was it established though? Luther?

192 posted on 03/25/2008 10:13:54 AM PDT by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: Alex Murphy; Dr. Eckleburg; HarleyD; Quix

^^^Obey the Ten Commandments for Everlasting Life^^^

OH! Is that all I have to do? < /sarc>

The Pelagianism of Rome must be why so many cross the Tiber. The crossers just want to get in touch with their inner-heretic.


193 posted on 03/25/2008 10:14:46 AM PDT by Gamecock (Viva La Reformacion!)
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To: Quix; Religion Moderator

Will you please act like a grown up? If you want a cartoon thread, start one.


194 posted on 03/25/2008 10:14:50 AM PDT by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: annalex

***Yes. By whom was it established though? Luther?***

The Holy Spirit


195 posted on 03/25/2008 10:15:31 AM PDT by Gamecock (Viva La Reformacion!)
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To: Iscool

How, do you think, the verses you posted relate to what the author wrote?


196 posted on 03/25/2008 10:17:32 AM PDT by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: annalex; Religion Moderator
originally I pinged Alex, NYer and Salvation because they have large ping lists

I have never maintained or used a "large ping list", especially not in regards to Catholicism or even theology at large. The only lists I have ever maintained or used pertain to satire, Dr. Francis A. Schaeffer and (one abandoned many years ago) a Meteorology club. The first two lists are shown on my profile page. Any investigation into my posting history (which can be accessed from my profile page) would have shown you that I use no other lists, certainly not "large" ones.

Please cease pinging me to your threads and posts, or even from talking about me in posts to others, under any circumstances real or imagined, ever again.

197 posted on 03/25/2008 10:20:06 AM PDT by Alex Murphy ("Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?" -- Galatians 4:16)
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To: annalex
What the Jews did to their canon should not be of consequence to us; yet Luther was the one who switched to their canon.

But you said Luther truncated it, which is not true. Luther kept all the books, he just put the ones in question in an appendix.

198 posted on 03/25/2008 10:21:53 AM PDT by Always Right (Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
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To: Gamecock; Freedom'sWorthIt; Dr. Eckleburg; HarleyD; Quix; wmfights
What we see Christ doing in this passage is taking the law and cranking it up to the nth degree, to the point where the rich young ruler realized he could not keep the law

This is a very convoluted interpretation, which also presents a Christ Who would not give a straight answer to a heartfelt and vitally important question, "what do I need to do to be saved?". There is nothing in the context that suggests it; in fact, one of the gospels that relate the episode also mentions that Christ said all that to the young man "loving him", yet He allowed him to walk away.

Further, it is by far not an isolated passage exhorting men to good works, -- in fact, the gospels are filled with such.

199 posted on 03/25/2008 10:25:19 AM PDT by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: annalex

Ugh. He sets off to worship a particular human “church” organization rather than God, parses words and is fast and loose with propositions, and calls himself a logician.

Not understanding (possibly deliberately) basic principles of the Protestant Reformation does not make it false. Of course, starting from the assumption of a perfect human “church” organization existing in the first place is just asking for trouble.


200 posted on 03/25/2008 10:26:17 AM PDT by dan1123 (If you want to find a person's true religion, ask them what makes them a "good person".)
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