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To: jkl1122

I’ll grant you that repentance and accepting Jesus can be considered acts of obedience. But I don’t think that’s what our discussion has been about.

If you are now claiming that these minimum “works”, if you call them that, are all that’s necessary for salvation, then we are on the same page.

But if you are claiming that your salvation depends on ongoing works, then you are wrong.

Jesus said the one who loves him would be obedient. He also so said that the one that is forgiven much will love much. And he said that WHOSOEVER believes in him would be forgiven. Notice the order. Faith -> Forgiveness -> Love ->Obedience. It’s not the other way around. And faith doesn’t yield instantaneous obedience or good works.


156 posted on 03/20/2008 10:17:45 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: DannyTN

The faith that saves is not simple belief, but rather it is an obedient faith. In order to be saved, one must not only believe and repent, but they also must confess that Christ is the Son of God and be baptized for the remission of their sins.


157 posted on 03/20/2008 12:27:55 PM PDT by jkl1122
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