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Moses was high on drugs: Israeli researcher
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Posted on 03/04/2008 6:46:14 AM PST by crusty old prospector

High on Mount Sinai, Moses was on psychedelic drugs when he heard God deliver the Ten Commandments, an Israeli researcher claimed in a study published this week. Such mind-altering substances formed an integral part of the religious rites of Israelites in biblical times, Benny Shanon, a professor of cognitive psychology at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem wrote in the Time and Mind journal of philosophy.

"As far Moses on Mount Sinai is concerned, it was either a supernatural cosmic event, which I don't believe, or a legend, which I don't believe either, or finally, and this is very probable, an event that joined Moses and the people of Israel under the effect of narcotics," Shanon told Israeli public radio on Tuesday.

Moses was probably also on drugs when he saw the "burning bush," suggested Shanon, who said he himself has dabbled with such substances.

"The Bible says people see sounds, and that is a classic phenomenon," he said citing the example of religious ceremonies in the Amazon in which drugs are used that induce people to "see music."

He mentioned his own experience when he used ayahuasca, a powerful psychotropic plant, during a religious ceremony in Brazil's Amazon forest in 1991. "I experienced visions that had spiritual-religious connotations," Shanon said.

He said the psychedelic effects of ayahuasca were comparable to those produced by concoctions based on bark of the acacia tree, that is frequently mentioned in the Bible.


TOPICS: Judaism
KEYWORDS: ayahuasca; crackheadprofessor; judaism; moses; projection; religion
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To: DBrow
Just communicating one of those little random bits of information that has found purchase in this bizzare mass of cells that functions as my brain. I have all kinds of strange and generally useless information stored in random places that pop-up when certain neurons fire.

I take no responsibility for applicability. I once had a co-worker tell me he was grateful that he didn't have my brain because it was so filled with strange minutiae. :)
81 posted on 03/04/2008 7:15:47 AM PST by Sudetenland (McQueeg or Obama? McQueeg or Obama? Emotionally Unstable or Socialist? Decisions decisions!)
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To: crusty old prospector
LSDLSD
82 posted on 03/04/2008 7:15:52 AM PST by Dick Vomer (liberals suck....... but it depends on what your definition of the word "suck" is.,)
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To: DBrow
Just communicating one of those little random bits of information that has found purchase in this bizzare mass of cells that functions as my brain. I have all kinds of strange and generally useless information stored in random places that pop-up when certain neurons fire.

I take no responsibility for applicability. I once had a co-worker tell me he was grateful that he didn't have my brain because it was so filled with strange minutiae. :)
83 posted on 03/04/2008 7:16:08 AM PST by Sudetenland (McQueeg or Obama? McQueeg or Obama? Emotionally Unstable or Socialist? Decisions decisions!)
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To: greyfoxx39

JS? You mean Jonah Strangegood?


84 posted on 03/04/2008 7:16:30 AM PST by Utah Binger (Statesmanship requires having no religious hangups; being owned by no one)
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To: Enosh
Caleb is a book in your Bible?

No such book. Caleb was one of the spies who was sent into Israel by Moses, and only one of 2 who didn't come back and spread tales of "woe are we, the Caananites are so strong and numerous that we'll surely be wiped out" (the other was Joshua).

85 posted on 03/04/2008 7:16:34 AM PST by Ancesthntr (An ex-citizen of the Frederation trying to stop Monica's Ex-Boyfriend's Wife from becoming President)
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To: bmwcyle
No, silly, it was the changing of the tide. Get with it, will ya.
86 posted on 03/04/2008 7:17:03 AM PST by agrace
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To: Ancesthntr

Get a grip, and at least attempt to read the entire post. I wrote all of those words with the assumption that people here would read all of them and not just knee-jerk react...as you have.


87 posted on 03/04/2008 7:17:26 AM PST by Sudetenland (McQueeg or Obama? McQueeg or Obama? Emotionally Unstable or Socialist? Decisions decisions!)
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To: Ancesthntr

Um, I believe the poster was ‘joking’ and made up a book and verse. :-)


88 posted on 03/04/2008 7:17:32 AM PST by pillut48 (CJ in TX --Soccer Mom and proud Rush Conservative with no dog in the presidential race now *sigh*)
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To: crusty old prospector
Benny Shanon, a professor

Thats where I stopped reading. Lots of knowledge; little brains.

89 posted on 03/04/2008 7:19:01 AM PST by Bommer ("He that controls the spice controls the universe!" (unfortunately that spice is Nutmeg!)
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To: agrace

Let see do I believe a Russian or the Bible. I’ll take the Bible.


90 posted on 03/04/2008 7:19:30 AM PST by bmwcyle (I am the watchman on the tower sounding the alarm.)
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To: theDentist

...As long as the observances are either Christian or Jewish, expect some folks to denigrate them.


91 posted on 03/04/2008 7:20:12 AM PST by Biggirl (A biggirl with a big heart for God's animal creation, with 4 cats in my life as proof. =^..^=)
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To: pillut48

Some people arround here seem to be inherently incapable of comprehending humor. You are, I believe addressing one in your message.


92 posted on 03/04/2008 7:21:13 AM PST by Sudetenland (McQueeg or Obama? McQueeg or Obama? Emotionally Unstable or Socialist? Decisions decisions!)
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To: crusty old prospector

Whats Benny been smokin’?...


93 posted on 03/04/2008 7:22:04 AM PST by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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To: Sudetenland
Get a grip, and at least attempt to read the entire post. I wrote all of those words with the assumption that people here would read all of them and not just knee-jerk react...as you have.

I didn't "knee-jerk react." You advanced the possibility of a mass hallucination, and I gave you good reasons why it couldn't have occurred (the gist of which is because what was written about the event would have later proven to have obviously been false-which it hasn't, or there'd be no Judaism).

I guess that you're related to Obama - any analysis of your words is some kind of unjustified attack.

94 posted on 03/04/2008 7:22:27 AM PST by Ancesthntr (An ex-citizen of the Frederation trying to stop Monica's Ex-Boyfriend's Wife from becoming President)
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To: greyfoxx39; colorcountry; Utah Binger

Oh, diddle... and the BoM comes two-ply just like the Koran. Decisions, decisions...


95 posted on 03/04/2008 7:22:40 AM PST by Enosh (†)
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To: crusty old prospector

Moses was high on Obama.


96 posted on 03/04/2008 7:23:52 AM PST by jetson
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To: crusty old prospector

***Benny Shanon, a professor of cognitive psychology at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem wrote in the Time and Mind journal of philosophy.***

Benny: “Damn! I’m sick of this professor crap. And they expect me to come up with something really far out for the journals, or I’ll never make department head. That’s where the clout is. Next stop: DEAN. Radio interviews, TV, books! Money! Maybe even president of the university. Let’s see...Moses, Moses, shrubs, acacia trees...AHHHHHHHHHH! that’s it.”


97 posted on 03/04/2008 7:24:32 AM PST by kitkat
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To: greyfoxx39

....denied....

LOL


98 posted on 03/04/2008 7:26:47 AM PST by colorcountry (To anger a conservative, lie to him. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Artemis Webb

You sound like you are the one that wants to report me to the mods. Have fun.


99 posted on 03/04/2008 7:26:52 AM PST by caver (Yes, I did crawl out of a hole in the ground.)
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To: PBRSTREETGANG
Moses supposes his toes-es are roses.

Moses supposes erroneously.

100 posted on 03/04/2008 7:28:34 AM PST by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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