Have the courage to speak fellowfreeper.
That's just Fred's spam message...he posts it all the time. Don't pay any attention to it.
Posted on 02/25/2008 7:29:24 AM PST by Alex Murphy
Is it a particular color or have a pattern on it?
Just curious but not obsessed.
CARNAL DESIRE?
ROTFL! Plain old curiousity!
I notice an article at the source site entitled "Shunned Mormons Could Serve Up the West for Obama"Link.
Excerpt: The many Mormons I have spoken to in attempting to obtain a read on how Mormons will vote in November are universally stating that they will either not vote for the Republican candidate, which is likely to be McCain, or they will vote for Obama as a candidate who will include Mormons in his campaign. If the candidate is Huckabee, the Mormons will turn out in droves to reject him as he openly used religion against the Mormons, which would result in a heavy vote for Obama.
Obama has taken note. In Obama's Super Tuesday speech, he made it very clear that his candidacy is inclusive of disaffected Republicans, as well as those who share differing religious views -- e.g., code word for Mormons. He is a smart character and he knows what it feels like to be on the receiving end of bigotry. He perceives he can tap into that well and turn the Mormon vote in his direction. He can also bridge to the Mormons on race as Mormons have been viewed as intolerant because of excluding their priesthood leadership responsibilities where the rank-and-file Mormon population is far from racist and as a group they have been seeking a way to heal the perceived !! racist policies of the past. Many prominent black Americans, such as Gladys Knight, who have joined the church have found racial ignorance in the church's mostly white and Hispanic population, but not intolerance or open racism in the church. With some patience, Obama can appeal to the members of the Mormon faith and become a popular symbol for overcoming the church's past perceived!! isolationist and racially-based policies.
I encourage others to visit this site and read the articles.
Even though I’m not Mormon, I’ve bought many things from Dressed in White. They have the prettiest hankie envelopes that are just perfect for keeping precious things like old letters or pressed flowers. The white dresses and suits are perfect for a more-casual wedding attire.
From todays Salt Lake Tribune
"Former Mitt supporters spread the love among varied presidential candidates
Excerpt:
With Mitt Romney out of the race, Dennis Wendt has a suggestion for where the Mormon vote should gravitate: Barack Obama.
After all, Obama encapsulates many of the same beliefs as Mormons, says Wendt, a 27-year-old Brigham Young University graduate student.
"He's been the one who appears to be the most faith-friendly and family-friendly candidate," he says. "That's a big thing."
BTTT
There is a difference in Mormonism between Temple undergarments, and Temple Clothing.
This is a picture of Temple Clothing. http://www.concernedchristians.org/images/he2lg.jpg It consists of white dress, (or slacks, pants and tie, vail, apron, sash, white shoes etc. These are worn inside the Temple to perform ordinances. Mormons are most often buried in Temple Clothing.
Garments are underwear and are worn daily by active LDS. FR will not allow a link to garments, but basically they are underwear....you’ll have to google it go to http://images.google.com/ and type in temple garments.
In Mormon theology, this marriage covenant is essential to one’s eternal progression. Through marriage, men and women become part of the hierarchy and government of the Kingdom of God...WRONG
Marriage is a representation of the union between Christ and His church.
Why?
There is a type of “costume” you dress in to perform the ordinances in the Temple. This costume is called Temple Clothing. The men wear a little “baker’s hat” thing. As I said there are shoes, ties, belts, aprons, sashes, slacks, shirts, ties and dresses. It is a ceremonial attire worn only during the ceremony.
Then, there is a seperate article of clothing, an undergarment you wear every day under your clothing and next to your skin, to remind you of oaths and covenants you performed in the Temple. These are called “garments of the priesthood.” In the olden days of Mormonism, you were never allowed to take them off. Now they can be removed to bathe, swim or perform in sports. Some couple leave them on even during marital relations.
They were at one time, ankle length, and they have little symbols stitched into the nipples and navel and knee (there used to be symbols at elbow, wrist and ankle too).
Perhaps cleaning up the constant Mormon smears here on the Religion forum would be an improvement over the obsession with minor potty language.
Sorry, I meant why wont FR allow a direct link.
Oh. I don’t get it but it’s not my site.
Sometimes I see no pattern or rhyme in what is removed or deleted or not allowed.
Oh well, I still am grateful for FR.
If this thread is like most others that have anything to do with The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, or as we are more often called, the Mormons, it will soon be taken over by those who, for reasons of their own, choose to put down my Church, and those of us who worship with it.
We find no problem with people who really want to talk to us about converting to their religion, we spend a lot of time doing it ourselves.
What we find offensive is when people leave out part of the truth to make a half-true lie , or when some one renames something, that we find important or sacred, so it sounds like gutter talk.
I do not know how to tell the difference all the time. There are some Handles that keep showing up, and they are easy to spot. Sometimes, though, I have given a hard and not so kind response to some who honestly care for us and our salvation.
Please forgive us if we get you mixed up.
Thanks for your time,
fred
The Temple Garments are sacred and must forever remain unchanged and unaltered from the very pattern in which God gave them. Joseph Fielding Smith, (The Improvement Era, vol. 9:813, as quoted in Temples of the Most High, p.276)
In Joseph Fielding Smith's day: The garments worn by those who receive endowments must be white, and of the approved pattern; they must not be altered or mutilated, and are to be worn as intended, down to the wrist and ankles, and around the neck.
Thus, the current Sacred Temple Garments are not in accordance with the revelations and teachings of Prophet J.F. Smith.
One last point. I read somewhere (and maybe someone can either affirm or refute this) that the Temple Garments caused severe hardship among Mormons serving in the Pacific Theater during WWII. Temperatures in the tropics and subtropics were frequently in excess of 110 degrees; the Saints persistently refused to take off their Garments; many suffered from heat exhaustion as a result. As a result, whenever possible, the War Department transferred Mormon GI's to the European Theater.
My dad (a returned LDS missionary) served in the Navy during WWII in the Pacific. In fact there were several Mormon men from our same small town who were on the same ship.
My dad had claustrophobia. He never mentioned that his garments were uncomfortable....he only lamented about the close living quarters on a ship. I think it must have almost driven him nuts! When he was drafted, he was supposed to be assigned to a submarine, in fact he was sent to submarine training.... until they found out he was claustrophobic.
“If this thread is like most others that have anything to do with The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, or as we are more often called, the Mormons, it will soon be taken over by those who, for reasons of their own, choose to put down my Church, and those of us who worship with it.
We find no problem with people who really want to talk to us about converting to their religion, we spend a lot of time doing it ourselves.
What we find offensive is when people leave out part of the truth to make a half-true lie , or when some one renames something, that we find important or sacred, so it sounds like gutter talk.
I do not know how to tell the difference all the time. There are some Handles that keep showing up, and they are easy to spot. Sometimes, though, I have given a hard and not so kind response to some who honestly care for us and our salvation.
Please forgive us if we get you mixed up.
Thanks for your time,
fred”
Alex Murphy, Personally I thought that that long post sending a subtle message to you was creepy, I hope it doesn’t have the desired effect on you.
Have the courage to speak fellowfreeper.
“According to Joseph Smith, the Temple Garment was given to Adam and Eve to cover their nakedness when they were expelled from the Garden of Eden.”
Oh, come on.......
That's just Fred's spam message...he posts it all the time. Don't pay any attention to it.
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