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To: Reno232
So you completely discount the quote that I posted relative to the correct translation?

This quote:

In Joseph's interpretation of Facsimile No. 1, the bird was the "Angel of the Lord". Joseph said the Facsimile depicted "Abraham fastened upon an altar," being offered up as a sacrifice by a false priest of Elkenah. The figures under the altar were various gods: Elkenah, Libnah, Mahmackrah, Korash, and Pharaoh. This is referenced in both the Facsimile and the text of the Book of Abraham 1:12-14.

In reality, this is an embalming scene showing Osiris lying on a lion-couch. The actual translation of Facsimile No. 1 is:

"Osiris shall be conveyed into the Great Pool of Khons -- and likewise Osiris Hor, justified, born to Tikhebyt, justified -- after his arms have been placed on his heart and the Breathing permit (which [Isis] made and has writing on its inside and outside) has been wrapped in royal linen and placed under his left arm near his heart; the rest of the mummy-bandages should be wrapped over it. The man for whom this book was copied will breathe forever and ever as the bas of the gods do." (Klaus Baer, Dialogue: A Journal of Mormon Thought, Autumn 1968, pp. 119-20)

1,758 posted on 03/01/2008 2:45:17 PM PST by pby
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To: pby
From the list....
#8. Bait & Switch
#12. YOU play defense for a while.
#16. If I repeat this enough times some folks will be fooled into thinking it's true.

Beware of the TAR BABY!

1,760 posted on 03/01/2008 2:50:50 PM PST by greyfoxx39 (Bill Richardson: Billions for boondoggles; Not one red cent for Jenny Craig.)
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To: pby
No, I don’t discount it at all. It’s one scholars opinion. Do you discount the refutation contained in the article I cited that includes recent discoveries? Your quote is not of recent nature. Mine is. That’s not to say that Mine is correct, but of more recent vintage. It would be interesting to hear Baer’s refutation of the article.
1,761 posted on 03/01/2008 2:54:28 PM PST by Reno232
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To: pby; Reno232
So you completely discount the quote that I posted relative to the correct translation?

The Mormons have been grasping at straws since 1968 to try to prove that anything that Joseph Smith allegedly translated into the Book of Abraham can be found on those scrolls that Joseph Smith bought. The fact is that all they can do is point to things that might have some similarities and say, "See this proves the Book of Abraham was translated from these scrolls."

But the fact remains that Egyptologists are unanimous in their opinion that it is impossible to translate those scrolls into anything even closely resembling anything in the Book of Abraham.

The Book of Abraham is a fraud. Nobody who has ever objectively looked at the evidence has ever concluded otherwise. And nobody ever will.

About the only thing that Joseph Smith got right was that, yes, those scrolls were from Egypt.

1,764 posted on 03/01/2008 2:57:57 PM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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