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Re: Do you hate me? ... Why do you hate Mormons? ... Why do you attack Mormons?

I DO NOT HATE MORMONS

Many of my family and friends are Mormons, and most of them are kind, loving, devout people. One cannot hate them, because they are not hateful. I do not hate the Mormons, nor am I attacking them. They are victims, not the perpetrators.

Christians say we love the sinner, hate the sin. In that regard, I love the Mormons, hate the Mormonism.

I believe such a limited hate is justified: I hate a lie, and I hate liars. And Mormonism is a lie, and many of its founders and many of its present leaders are liars. And it is by means of these lies that Mormonism attracts and keeps innocent people ensnared in its system.

The Mormon missionary message is a sanitized, incomplete and therefore inaccurate picture of its doctrines and its history. If Mormon missionaries and Mormon leaders would be completely honest about informing the public and prospective converts about the less attractive aspects of church history and church doctrine, then postings such as mine would be unnecessary. But they do not make full disclosure (as merchants are required by law to do in most states) because that would turn many people away. I find such conduct dishonest, and the moral equivalent of a lie.

I am attacking Mormonism only in the sense I am presenting facts that indicate that its claims are false. I am presenting the other side of the question. Is that immoral?

Everything I say on this forum is backed up by information I (and many others) believe to be accurate and true. I continually invite Mormons or others to show me if any of my facts or conclusions are false or illogical. And I have repeatedly offered to publicly retract and apologize for anything I have said which is proven untrue.

Your own church leaders have said some cruel and hateful things about my Christian faith and its leaders. For example:

Christianity...is a perfect pack of nonsense...the devil could not invent a better engine to spread his work than the Christianity of the nineteenth century. – Prophet Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, vol. 6, p.167
Are Christians ignorant? Yes, as ignorant of the things of God as the brute beast. – Prophet John Taylor, Journal of Discourses 13:225
The Book of Mormon remains secure, unchanged and unchangeable … but with the Bible it was not and is not so … it was once in the sole and exclusive care and custody of an abominable organization (Christianity), founded by the devil himself, likened prophetically unto a great whore, whose great aim and purpose was to destroy the souls of men in the name of religion. In these hands it ceased to be the book it once was. – Apostle Bruce R. McConkie, The Joseph Smith Translation, pp. 12, 13
Until recently, the Mormon Temple Ceremony referred to my pastor as a dimwitted hireling of Satan.

You can find many more similar quotes of Mormon leaders slamming Christians, even calling them inferior to Muslims, HERE.

Now, I do not think that any fair person can say that I have said such terrible things about the Mormon church as the Mormon scriptures and prophets have said about my Christian Faith and my pastor. In fact, compared to these official Mormon statements, my comments about Mormonism must look fairly mild.

BOTTOM LINE: I don't think I have been hateful toward you or any other Latter-day Saint. And I don't think I have made any false statements. And my original offer still stands: I will be pleased to publicly apologize for and retract any untrue and/or unkind statement.