Hey, can I get in on this?
Is that enough, or do you need More?
Posted on 02/19/2008 4:46:10 PM PST by Zakeet
In his pursuit of the presidency, Mitt Romney held fast to his Mormon faith, though his religion remains controversial with evangelicals and some other Christians. But his determined (and ultimately futile) wooing of evangelicals led him to make some statements that didn't quite square with Mormon beliefs and culture. And the effort itself may have deepened the impression of him as inauthentic—even to some fellow Mormons.
Early in his presidential bid, Romney was asked what he thought of polygamy. Prompted by what they considered a divine revelation, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints discontinued the practice more than a century ago, and the church distances itself from polygamist "fundamentalists." But Romney went one step further, saying he couldn't "imagine anything more awful than polygamy." Many Mormons were privately taken aback. Mormons believe that, in its time, "plural marriage" was a commandment from God, and they are, as a group, fiercely proud of their ancestors, hundreds of whom practiced polygamy. (Romney's own great-grandfather had five wives.) LDS church members loathe the polygamy stereotypes and jokes bandied by outsiders. But hearing Romney—the most recognizable face of their faith these days—disavow it in those terms was mildly unsettling to LDS insiders.
Others were puzzled to hear Romney say he reads the Gideon Bible—a version popular with evangelicals: Mormons uniformly study the King James version, in a Salt Lake edition that is cross-referenced to all other Mormon scripture. "Seems like he just figured he had to say the safest, most Protestant thing he could think of—that was kind of annoying," says Russell Arben Fox, a Mormon professor of political science at Friends University in Wichita, Kans.
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God expects us to test the spirits. You can’t really tell if it’s the spirit of God or the spirit of the unholy one. The voices can sound the same. Don’t believe everything you hear. Test the spirits.
Most evangelicals here know that the Mormon Church is not a traditional Christian church. We want the Mormons on these threads to realize that the Jesus you speak of is not the Jesus of the Bible. You believe he is satan’s brother, a spirit being. There are so many differences in what we both believe and Mormons are not Christians in the Biblical sense. We only want you to know the errors of the teachings. It’s not an attempt to bash anyone but to bring you the truth of the gospel. It’s because we DO love you that we bring you these messages. I wish you could all understand that.
Quote mining is the practice of compiling frequently misleading quotes from large volumes of literature or speech.[1]Mormons feel that Many anti Mormons and yes In my pinion, you are one of them, Use Quote mining to attack our church, these attacks can often be easily refuted if the poster includes a link to the source, so when a Quotation that seems to contradict what we are saying is posted without a link, we assume it to be quote mining because we see so much of it. When someone cuts quotations from an anti site for example, there is almost never a web linked quotation and it's almost always from a book that has to be looked up off line.
The term is pejorative. "Quote miners" are often accused of contextomy and misquotation, in an attempt to represent the views of the person being quoted inaccurately. For example, if a person being quoted disagrees with some position, a quote miner will present quotes that suggest that instead, this person is supportive of this position. Material that ostensibly bolsters this position is often taken out of context. Exposition that is at odds with the argument being made in the same text is excluded or otherwise obscured.
The point I have been making is that despite this, it shouldn’t stop us from coming together for conservative causes. Let’s get over the pointless bickering.
To respond to what you said: Mormons don’t care if you don’t view them as traditional christians. If you want to be entitled to define what a traditional christian is, fine. We know what our beliefs are and are proud of them. You likes your beliefs and we are fine with that. I am not going to look down on you and refuse to vote for one of you just because you don’t attend my Church. Let’s get passed the silliness.
I appreciate your advice. I pray to know the truth daily. I hope you do too.
You don’t care for circular reasoning? A few of these posters have a habit of assuming what they set out to prove.
I’m not “debating” with you Joseph Smith’s version of reality, any more than I will debate with you what an egg “is”.
In its most basic form, 1 egg is composed of three essential, equal parts: a shell, a yolk, and an egg white. That is what makes up an egg. Period.
You can either accept it or not. But your denying of that statement does NOT change what “it” is in its most basic form and explanation.
The same is applied to God.
The Scriptures speak to God being the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, three but one, hence, a trinity. This is but one of the most basic foundations of Christianity.
Believing that God is not “three beings as one God” necessitates a completely different religion. It turns it into a polytheistic rather than a monotheistic belief system.
This “completely different religion” is, in fact, exactly what Joseph Smith wanted. In fact, he was “told all the Christian religions are apostate.”
The stories he told when forming his “new” religion rejects exactly what makes the Christian religions, in their essence, Christian, and is exactly what separates the Mormons from Christianity. Period.
Can a mortal ask questions which God finds unanswerable? Quite easily, I should think. All nonsense questions are unanswerable.I cannot answer some of the Questions asked for they are nonsense (Like the marital status of the number five for example...), and I am immeasurably more limited then God in my ability to answer questions, that is one of the reasons I champion praying about things..
Quote mining is the practice of compiling frequently misleading quotes from large volumes of literature or speech.Many of the quotations, if not all you are speaking of are the product of Quote mining, I've chased down enough of them to know.
The term is pejorative. "Quote miners" are often accused of contextomy and misquotation, in an attempt to represent the views of the person being quoted inaccurately. For example, if a person being quoted disagrees with some position, a quote miner will present quotes that suggest that instead, this person is supportive of this position. Material that ostensibly bolsters this position is often taken out of context. Exposition that is at odds with the argument being made in the same text is excluded or otherwise obscured.
When you hear that the LDS recogized that Lucifer who fell from grace was once a light bearer among the Morning stars who sang for glory and that Lucifer was once among the sons of God, what thoughts do you conjure up?
Mary tell us how you test the spirits?
“Getting saved” is not a one-time occurrence. Repentance is a life-long process.
I would also posit that Repentance is work, or it’s not repentance.
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Did you see this?
Sorry for got the link! LLOL
Excerpt; Good illistration on repentance
http://www.byu.tv/index.html?start=61622.457&stop=61991.656&show=&ep=http://qmplive.xlontech.net/byutv/stream/080219.qvt
Joseph Smith, actually. He also thought himself equal.
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