>>Some additional Eucharist Miracle threads<<
Some additional RCC Hocus-Pocus Works-Based Belief.
Try faith. It works.
So, John Chapter 6 is "hocus pocus"?
Try faith. It works.
To truly accept the Liturgy of the Eucharist requires an immense amount of faith in the beginning.
Simply saying, "I accept Jesus Christ as my personal Lord and Savior" and assuming that your salvation is secure regardless of any future actions, is at best intellectual sophistry, but generally a rote recitation for acceptance, that requires not a modicum of faith.
The phrase “Hocus-Pocus” you are using is a Protestant corruption of the Latin phrase: “In Hoc Est Corpus Meum”, which translates the words of the Lord: “This is My Body”.
I always find it interesting when protestants of any stripe (who rely so utterly on the inerrant word of the Bible) are the first to trash sacred words just because they are in Latin and spoken by an ordained Catholic priest.
In my sixty some years as a Catholic I believe I haven’t heard other Catholics spend even one minute commenting on the errancy of what protestants believe.
Lurking’
I did.
It didn't.
Now that I'm a Catholic, it does.
This is actually a very interesting remark. Here's how it interests me:
(1)How can I "try faith"? Isn't faith a gift of God to man, a sign and instance of Divine Grace? I can no more "try faith" than I can beget a child on myself. The latter needs a human other (and the rolling back of a few years), the former requires God's gift.
(2)Does "it [that is, faith] work," or does God work through faith? Does anything good happen in the human soul unless God has done it? Can the city possibly stand if God does not build it? Do we not otherwise labor in vain?
I pinged you hither, Harley, because a week or so go you expressed astonishment at my distinguishing between the language of theology and the language of piety. But here we have almost the very example I gave!
My example was, "Prayer works," and here we have "try faith," and "It [faith] works."
Now of course I disagree with what the poster is saying about Eucharistic theology and works and all that. But I can see many of us here, Protestant, Catholic or Orthodox, saying to someone exactly what IOTN said here. "Try trusting in God! It works!" And yet we would, I think, agree with the proposition that we could not say that unless God gave it to us to say it, and the person to whom we spoke could not act on it unless God have given it to him to act.
So it's kind of funny to see some one who is rebuking us RCs for our alleged works-righteousness, in the very act of rebuke falling into the LANGUAGE of works. Was there ever a more "worky" word than "try"?
It is all gift. If, perchance, someday, some good work were done by me, it would not really be me by whom it was done, but God acting in me both to will and to do. Silver and gold have I none. I have nothing of my own. But what I have, I give:
Try faith, it works.
You mean like, if I say the magic words, "I accept Jesus Christ as my Saviour", I'm saved?