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To: Zionist Conspirator
I notice that you place all the burden on Fundamentalist Protestants. Have you ever considered that it is possible for a Catholic or a mormon to be a bigot? Or is this that "poor little minority vs. the masses of illiterate hayseeds" thing again? It's not as if Fundamentalism owns conservatism. I'd say if conservatism had rulers those rulers would be Catholic rather than Fundamentalist--whether considering William F. Buckley Jr. or the place the Catholic Church holds in the hearts of the "palaeo" worshipers of "western civilization." In fact, the traditional Catholic hostility to Jews and Israel was very dominant in conservatism for a long, long time, despite the fact that pro-Israel Fundamentalists outnumber Catholics in the United States. I don't suppose the fact that so many Catholics think that people who insist on total Biblical inerrancy are brain-damaged or retarded bothers you in the least? But I forget, I'm addressing the inventor of "Billy Bob's Glory Barn." I forget myself! Blacks can't be racists, and Catholics can't be bigots (except in Spain)!

If you are so besmitten with fundamental Protestantism, you should become one. Then your complaints about Catholic interpretation of scripture that you post ad-naseum won't seem quite so bizarre. - Perhaps you are more comfortable being the "poor little minority vs. the masses of illiterate hayseeds". Ooops, you wrote that. I've also noticed that some Jews are quite adept at being bigots as well.

But while we're on the subject, I doubt Jews would be very happy if the Pope tried to tell them what prayers they can say, so it seems strange that rabbis think they have that right to dictate to the Pope.

And no, Catholics are not anywhere near as obsessed with fundamentalists as the reverse. That's why articles like the one posted causes fits of rage in the usual suspects.

Lastly, Israel is an independent nation, not the 51st state of the US. While I support Israel's right to exist and be secure, my support does not come from the ludicrous notion that it is my "job" to do so. And what of the many Hasidic Jews who were opposed to the formation of Israel?

187 posted on 02/20/2008 10:46:51 AM PST by Hacksaw (I support the tiger.)
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To: Hacksaw
If you are so besmitten with fundamental Protestantism, you should become one. Then your complaints about Catholic interpretation of scripture that you post ad-naseum won't seem quite so bizarre. - Perhaps you are more comfortable being the "poor little minority vs. the masses of illiterate hayseeds". Ooops, you wrote that. I've also noticed that some Jews are quite adept at being bigots as well.

I'm not Jewish. I'm a Noachide, and like most American Noachides am the product of the rural Southern Bible Belt culture. In fact (and I get so tired of having to point this out) I actually converted to the Catholic Church over two decades ago and was a member for six years. Well, "member" implies that I belonged, and no "redneck" can really belong to the Catholic Church. I was tolerated because my feeble brain wasn't great enough to see how full of errors the Bible is.

But while we're on the subject, I doubt Jews would be very happy if the Pope tried to tell them what prayers they can say, so it seems strange that rabbis think they have that right to dictate to the Pope.

I am totally opposed to dictating internal changes in other people's religious beliefs while hypocrtically boasting of how "tolerant" and "non-proselytary" that one is. I would say that the Catholic Church deserves such treatment for claiming that Genesis is based on ancient middle eastern pagan mythology, but those liberal Jews who do all the screaming about "anti-Semitism" seem to believe that as well.

And no, Catholics are not anywhere near as obsessed with fundamentalists as the reverse. That's why articles like the one posted causes fits of rage in the usual suspects.

Let me tell you something. I grew up in the Fundamentalist Bible Belt, and while Fundamentalist Protestant theology certainly contradicts Catholic theology, blatant anti-Catholicism simply was not, and is not, present in the churches around here if for no other reason that there are no Catholics around here. Meanwhile, when I joined the Catholic Church I couldn't pick up a magazine or tract that didn't attack Fundamentalist Protestants, laugh at their ignorance, accuse them of "bigotry," and attacking the total inerrancy of the Bible. Did you know that the Catholic Diocese of Little Rock filed an amicus curae brief in support of the ACLU and its crusade against creationism, btw?

It is most tiresome to constantly here Catholics attack Protestants for their antinomianism when Catholics reject the holy G-d-dictated rituals and commandments of the Torah, or whine and cry about bigotry when their own ancestors in Europe said everything about the Jews that Fundamentalist Protestants now say about the Catholic Church and more. Payback's a *itch, ain't it?

Lastly, Israel is an independent nation, not the 51st state of the US. While I support Israel's right to exist and be secure, my support does not come from the ludicrous notion that it is my "job" to do so. And what of the many Hasidic Jews who were opposed to the formation of Israel?

Those groups were opposed to the idea of a secular Jewish state that would be just like all the other countries. And I think time has proven them right, at least as far as the Israeli government is concerned. When Mashiach HaMelekh comes and the Holy Temple rebuilt and the `Avodat HaQodesh (the Holy Temple Service) reinstated, then you will see what makes the Jewish Nation unique.

204 posted on 02/20/2008 1:29:25 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator (HaShem, HaShem, Qel Rachum veChanun; 'erekh 'appayim verav-chesed ve'emet!)
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