Yes, and I did not mean to pour any cold water on the resurrection. :) I was saying that the author only quoted HALF of what Paul said and used it to mis-define what justification is.
By resurrection, death was defeated and His divinity was established (although the Synaptic Gospels suggest otherwise).
How are you using "established"? His divinity has never been "not established".
FK: The author is wrong in thinking that Christ is merely an ongoing continuation of the paschal lamb sacrifice.
Nevertheless, the earliest Church documents show that's how it was understood and practiced, and they were a lot closer to the original faith than your side, FK.
Then they were wrong just like the author was wrong. :) The Bible doesn't support them, it supports us. And the Apostles obviously followed their own writings, regardless of whether those who soon followed did not on this issue.
Who would believe anything you say is wrong anyway after the following type of posts by you...
Thursday, May 15, 2008 4:20:27 AM · 1,218 of 1,394
Forest Keeper to Mad Dawg; Dr. Eckleburg; swmobuffalo
Mad Dawg- quoting the Catechism-1859 Mortal sin requires full knowledge and complete consent. It presupposes knowledge of the sinful character of the act, of its opposition to God's law. It also implies a consent sufficiently deliberate to be a personal choice. Feigned ignorance and hardness of heart133 do not diminish, but rather increase, the voluntary character of a sin.
FK-Now, have you EVER known of a person to go 10 years passing this test? :) I wouldn't even pretend to put myself on such a scale in terms of years, or even months, even weeks. And I'm a pretty decent guy! LOL! So, if even looking at a beautiful woman and just THINKING an unclean thought is adultery, then imagine what must count for bearing false witness. :) IOW, according to the Bible and the Catechism I don't see how anyone can go for this kind of time without what the Church calls grave sin.
Here you're preaching that thinking unclean thoughts are unattainable,thus promoting sin.
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Thursday, May 15, 2008 12:51:51 PM · 1,222 of 1,394
FK-””Obviously, if we die while carrying a grudge against someone, that isn't going to cost us our salvation.””
Here you have decided that God will not take away your salvation for for certain sins approved by you.
Saturday, May 17, 2008 6:13:48 AM · 1,244 of 1,394
Forest Keeper to stfassisi; Mad Dawg; Dr. Eckleburg; swmobuffalo
FK: “IOW, according to the Bible and the Catechism I don't see how anyone can go for this kind of time without what the Church calls grave sin.”
Here you convict everyone of committing a grave sin because it's not possible to live a life without committing a grave sin according to you.
It does not surprise me that you deny the power of Christ to be literally present in the Eucharist
I have learned to not pay attention to what people write or say ,but to rather pay attention to why they write or say certain things because it usually means they are hiding or trying to run away from something that is sinful.
Even worse, their pride has enveloped them to think they are always right!.
I will keep you in my prayers.
This is my last post on this thread.
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