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To: Forest Keeper; MarkBsnr; stfassisi; irishtenor; Dr. Eckleburg; Gamecock; wmfights; Cvengr; ...
Well, the Bible isn't a matter of necessity. It is a matter of God's choice and love for His children

Unsubstantiated claim, FK. No proof exists for this statement.

He allows me to make mistakes with the idea that I will learn from them. He will not allow me to "fall" permanently.

Personal interpretation, not universally accepted among Christians.

I don't have any righteousness of my own. Christ's righteousness, which cannot be tarnished, has been imputed to me.

Presumptuous unsubstantiated claim.

God "lets" me do whatever is in accordance with (or within the boundaries of) His plan for me.

God doesn't need a plan.

That plan cannot include letting me sin such that I will lose my salvation. That's what the Bible says

No, Paul says so. But Paul is neither God, not is the Bible.

There is no contradiction here. Look at the construction. First, the parameter of the condition is set: the following will be true until Heaven and earth pass away

I was waiting for you to come back with this only to remind you that we do not follow God's 613 commandments and claim the Law, as written, doe snot apply to us. Obviously by rejecting the law, we abolished it and choose to abide by 10 OT commandments and 2 NT ones.

6,817 posted on 08/02/2008 5:17:41 PM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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FK: He allows me to make mistakes with the idea that I will learn from them. He will not allow me to "fall" permanently.

Personal interpretation, not universally accepted among Christians.

If everything that is not universally accepted by Christians is personal interpretation, then the Apostolic claim to authority over other Christians falls flat on its face. Yet, you and the Latins each independently claim to be the "one true Church". So much for that. :)

FK: There is no contradiction here. Look at the construction. First, the parameter of the condition is set: the following will be true until Heaven and earth pass away ......

I was waiting for you to come back with this only to remind you that we do not follow God's 613 commandments and claim the Law, as written, does not apply to us. Obviously by rejecting the law, we abolished it and choose to abide by 10 OT commandments and 2 NT ones.

No, we have not rejected the Law, we know better now that it does not determine salvation. Obviously, SOME of those 613 (or whatever the number is) commandments were specific to the people and the times. Others were timeless and apply today. Jesus helped us with this. For example, Jesus said this:

Matt 15:19 : For out of the heart come evil thoughts, murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false testimony, slander.

Well, what is adultery and sexual immorality as Jesus meant it? It seems clear to me that Jesus meant several of those 613 commandments telling who not to sleep with! :) Therefore, those commandments remain in tact to this day.

We didn't "choose" what to abide by, Jesus told us. And in addition to what He told us, we have to remember that some commandments are summaries of other commandments. Dietary restrictions, for example, don't really fold into any of the summary commandments, but sexual immorality clearly does.

6,820 posted on 08/04/2008 2:10:41 AM PDT by Forest Keeper (It is a joy to me to know that God had my number, before He created numbers.)
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