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Well, I think your response goes to prove the truth of what the author says. Certainly among other Christians, almost NO ONE agrees with you. :) And among the atheists, etc., who make these types of arguments, their views have not seemed to have had any effect on how true believers view the Bible. Now, certainly they and liberals in general have done some damage in fooling SOME people (those who have never believed), but I am unaware of very many who called themselves true believers, but then became atheists because the "lies" of the Bible had somehow been revealed to them by science or logic or the arguments that we have been discussing.

So, what Christians believe or agree with is the absolute rule? I have found that if you dig deep enough every Christians disagrees with another Christian while on the surface pretending to be of the same and equal faith. We are not talking about the faith, FK, we are talking about the Bible. Two different things. One can believe in God and give thanks to God without quoting or even knowing the Bible!

As for the views of those who call it the way it is, whether atheist or not, you use the same failed argument as before: they didn't change "true believers." No, there were "true" (I would say fanatical) believers who fought to the last moment in the Reichstag defending Hitler. Does their tenacity prove them "right?"

If the truths about the Bible make anyone an atheist it's because they believed in the Bible and not in God. Because the Bible is/was their God. God does not exist because of the Bible, nor does God "cease" to exist because the Bible is not as perfect as someone once believed. It is idolatry, once exposed, that leads to demise of the idols but not the faith in God. Only pride and arrogance, not archeology, can deny that something much bigger than we are created all this.

So, what Christians believe or agree with is the absolute rule?

No, what the Bible SAYS is the absolute rule. Christians are all over the map in their recognitions of "the rules".

I have found that if you dig deep enough every Christian disagrees with another Christian while on the surface pretending to be of the same and equal faith.

Sure, that is to be expected. The Holy Spirit leads all of us at an individual pace, based on God's individual plan for each of us. Today I would have disagreed with my own self from five years ago on some things, even though I was saved then. That's not bad, it's GOOD. It means that I am being sanctified.

We are not talking about the faith, FK, we are talking about the Bible. Two different things. One can believe in God and give thanks to God without quoting or even knowing the Bible!

I would never recommend that because barring a special situation that God arranged the person could not possibly know to whom he was giving thanks. It would be blind thanks to no one in particular.

I don't mean "true believers" in the sense of how successful they are in convincing me or you or anyone else of their belief. I mean objective true believers, known to God. To the Apostolic, apparently all it takes to be a true believer is a hearty "me too". That certainly solves many scriptural problems that your side has. But you are forced to accept that for you "true faith" is really a meaningless concept. ...... I have no idea why you think a true belief in something false is somehow relevant to a true belief in what is eternally true. God is the true difference. You appear to say that one is just as reasonable as the other.