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To: irishtenor; Forest Keeper; MarkBsnr; stfassisi; Dr. Eckleburg; Gamecock; wmfights; Cvengr
Kosta to FK: First you will have to explain how do you know it was the Holy Spirit that ‘touched’ you and sent you to the scriptures?

Unfortunately, my dear Kosta, if we have to explain it to you, you haven’t recieved it yet. There is still hope, though. I will pray for you

So, I am the "bad" guy for asking? If I ask you to do a bunch of math problems and you come up with correct answers, is it too much if I ask how you solved them? And if you can't, there are two possibilities: (1) one-in-impossible chance that you guessed it or (2) that you cheated (i.e. lied).

If I say that there are pink unicorns on Jupiter because one came to me and 'touched' me, you will either dismiss me as a lunatic, someone on drugs, or you will ask me to prove it.

If someone says "the Holy Spirit 'touched' me and immediately sent me to the scriptures" and I ask how do you know it was the Holy Spirit that 'touched' you and you can't answer except by appealing to some "inner knowledge," then there are two possibilities: (1) you don't know, but you think/hope/wish it was, or (2) you are lying. Which one is it?

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. Hopes and wishes do not constitute a proof. Otherwise we can all go around "witnessing," and making claims of "inner knowledge" as proof. That's why the Church opposed Gnosticism, which seems to be alive and well among the Reformed.

6,670 posted on 07/26/2008 9:03:42 AM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: kosta50; irishtenor; MarkBsnr; stfassisi; Dr. Eckleburg; Gamecock; wmfights; Cvengr
Kosta to FK: First you will have to explain how do you know it was the Holy Spirit that ‘touched’ you and sent you to the scriptures?

Irish: Unfortunately, my dear Kosta, if we have to explain it to you, you haven’t received it yet. There is still hope, though. I will pray for you.

Kosta: So, I am the "bad" guy for asking? If I ask you to do a bunch of math problems and you come up with correct answers, is it too much if I ask how you solved them? And if you can't, there are two possibilities: (1) one-in-impossible chance that you guessed it or (2) that you cheated (i.e. lied).

No, you're not the bad guy for asking, Kosta, but I do find it a little troubling that you try to put me in the unenviable position of either answering your question to your satisfaction, an impossible task regardless of truth I have found, or being assumed a liar. :) Nevertheless, I can try again. I know it was the Holy Spirit because I believe that satan will not lead people directly toward Christ, to His word, to His faith, to His love. And that is exactly what this "entity" did for me. And since the Bible says that I couldn't have been leading myself (as there is no good in me to search for the one true God), and we eliminated satan, then all that leaves is Holy Spirit.

6,688 posted on 07/27/2008 10:17:50 AM PDT by Forest Keeper (It is a joy to me to know that God had my number, before He created numbers.)
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