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To: kosta50; MarkBsnr; stfassisi; irishtenor; Dr. Eckleburg; Gamecock; wmfights; Cvengr
FK: Paul TAUGHT to search the scriptures along the way so he KNEW he was a special case in the way he learned.

If you are referring to Acts 17:11 re: Bearean Jews, that's a joke. What Scriptures did they consult? I would imagine the Septuagint, because they were Hellenized Jews. They were checking to see if Paul was quoting from it.

Of what possible relevance could it be whether or not they read the Septuagint? You act as if that would be absolutely critical to their understanding. Wrong, and totally off point. The point is that you were attacking the scriptures and I said that Paul taught that they should be consulted above oral teaching.

Take for instance 1 Cor 15:4 "and that He was buried, and that He was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures." The part "raised on the third day" is from Matthew (16:21), Acts (2:31) and John (2:20). But Matthew, Acts and especially John were not written at the time Paul wrote this Epistle to the Corinthians!!! Hello, earth, we have a problem, bleep.

Ridiculous. You leave out:

Mark 9:30-31 : 30 They left that place and passed through Galilee. Jesus did not want anyone to know where they were, 31 because he was teaching his disciples. He said to them, "The Son of Man is going to be betrayed into the hands of men. They will kill him, and after three days he will rise."

There is absolutely no way you can sell it as a certainty that Mark was not written and known to Paul before 1 Cor. No way.

FK: Does that sound like something Christ would teach?

The verse says we can believe for a while and then fall away by temptation. As regards works-based salvation, yes the Gospels have Christ teaching works-based salvation all over the place. What else could He preach, being an observant Jew, and preaching to the Jews?!?

OK, then you work as hard as you can for your salvation and I will have faith for mine. :)

6,579 posted on 07/20/2008 4:48:20 PM PDT by Forest Keeper (It is a joy to me to know that God had my number, before He created numbers.)
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To: Forest Keeper; MarkBsnr; stfassisi; irishtenor; Dr. Eckleburg; Gamecock; wmfights; Cvengr
Of what possible relevance could it be whether or not they read the Septuagint?

The Septuagint contains deuterocanonical books.

You act as if that would be absolutely critical to their understanding

I don't act, FK. And, yes it is absolutely critical.

The point is that you were attacking the scriptures and I said that Paul taught that they should be consulted above oral teaching.

Attacking scriptures? LOL! Informed critique is an "attack?"

Ridiculous. You leave out: Mark 9:30-31

Mark wasn't written either when 1 Corinthians was written. Paul wrote according to the Scriptures and my question is what Scriptures? Don't quote Mark to me because it wasn't written yet. We know that from external sources.

There is absolutely no way you can sell it as a certainty that Mark was not written and known to Paul before 1 Cor. No way

I am worried because your statements are becoming overtly dogmatic FK. When was Mark's Gospel written? Where was Mark and where was Paul when it was written?

6,603 posted on 07/21/2008 11:48:22 PM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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