[kosta50]

stfassisi: If those were His wishes than God is a partner with the devil according to the reformed because it is would be a sacrifice to create a soul for hell.Spin it all you want, but it is exactly that!

FK: No spin is necessary. God uses the reprobate for His purposes

FK, the satanic part is to convince people that God wished evil because that's the best God could come up with.

If satan never existed then it is a certainty that each of us would have a much different personal relationship with God than each of us does now, right?

Oh horrors, imagine, no flood, no blood, no guts, no suffering, no repentance, no crucifixtion, no cruelty, no killings of the firstborn...what a "borning" world would that be. It's almost as if you are suggesting that God would have nothing to do!

[Forest Keeper]

FK: No spin is necessary. God uses the reprobate for His purposes.

FK, the satanic part is to convince people that God wished evil because that's the best God could come up with.

And is this as opposed to something better that you think YOU came up with??? :) The grievous error is by those who accuse God of being SO WEAK that evil was thrust upon Him, beyond His control. Here we go again, God is only human.

FK: If satan never existed then it is a certainty that each of us would have a much different personal relationship with God than each of us does now, right?

Oh horrors, imagine, no flood, no blood, no guts, no suffering, no repentance, no crucifixion, no cruelty, no killings of the firstborn...

And also, no need. No true appreciation as we saw with Adam and Eve. It goes both ways.