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To: MarkBsnr; Dr. Eckleburg
I said that the summary of the Gospels is the Lord’s Prayer, the Two Commandments of Jesus, and the Sermon on the Mount. Your side contended that the summary of the Gospels is “Christ died.” I think that this is an excellent side by side comparison of the two theologies and justification in itself for choosing Catholic belief over the Reformed.

The best summary of the Gospel is given by Paul in I Corinthians 15:1-4:

"Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the Gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand, by which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.

"For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures, and that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures."

That is the short version of the Gospel, but notice that twice Paul identifies the scriptures as central to the meaning of the Gospel, providing the foundation and context thereof.

650 posted on 01/31/2008 6:30:45 AM PST by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: Uncle Chip; ScubieNuc; MarkBsnr

Actually the Scripture that pre-dates the ones you (Uncle Chip) have offered is in the first chapter of Luke, verses 68-79, which is often referred to as the “little Gospel”.

“Blessed be the Lord, the God of Israel;
He has come to his people and set them free.

He has raised up for us a mighty Savior,
born of the house of his servant David.

Through his holy prophets He promised of old
that He would save us from our enemies,
from the hands of all who hate us.

He promised to show mercy to our fathers:
and to remember his holy covenant.

This was the oath He swore to our father Abraham:
to set us free from the hands of our enemies,
free to worship Him without fear,
holy and righteous in his sight
all the days of our life.

You, my child, shall be called the prophet of the Most High,
for you will go before the Lord to prepare his way,

to give his people knowledge of salvation
by the forgiveness of their sins.

In the tender compassion of our God
the dawn from on high shall break upon us,
to shine on those who dwell in darkness
and the shadow of death
and to guide our feet into the way of peace.”

Mark, I understand and commend you for bringing in the Ten Commandments and the Sermon on the Mount and the Beatitudes. I feel confident that you already understood/understand the Gospel as presented in Luke 1, and that your references are from the OT teaching of God’s laws, the first teaching from the Lord and his revelation of the need for us to live by the Beatitudes that He taught us as a response to his Gospel.

It’s a more excellent way for all of us to acknowledge the good meaning of others who post, and to make the effort to see the good intentions of others.

So-—the “little Gospel” is given to us when Joseph and Mary presented Jesus to Simeon in the temple, according to Hebrew law. And St. Paul comes much later to explain it more fully to the early Church.

ROE


657 posted on 01/31/2008 7:18:22 AM PST by Running On Empty ((The three sorriest words:"It's too late"))
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To: Uncle Chip; MarkBsnr; Dr. Eckleburg
The best summary of the Gospel is given by Paul in I Corinthians 15:1-4:

Thank you, it is very clear if you want to understand.

notice that twice Paul identifies the scriptures as central to the meaning of the Gospel, providing the foundation and context thereof.

Great point about the Scriptures.

659 posted on 01/31/2008 7:25:56 AM PST by wmfights (Believe - THE GOSPEL - and be saved)
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To: Uncle Chip

Sometime back, I also said that if the Reformed had come back with:

Christ has died, Christ is risen, Christ will come again

that this might also be a reasonable summary. You are the first individual to post anything along those lines. Very good.

One must be very careful with identifying the scriptures to which Paul is referring. 1 Corinthians was written relatively early and most probably before any of the Gospels were written - certainly before Paul had seen them.

Therefore he is referring to his own letters as well as the OT. The Apostles did recognize Paul’s letters as Scripture fairly early on, but I don’t know the relative dates.


664 posted on 01/31/2008 7:39:50 AM PST by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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