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To: MarkBsnr; kosta50; stfassisi; irishtenor; Dr. Eckleburg; Gamecock; wmfights; Alamo-Girl
FK: ***Gen 50:15-20 ***

There was no evil actually done.

Sure there was, the brothers threw Joseph down a well and sold him into slavery. Joseph says that God used that for good.

FK: ***Matt 10:34-36 ***

There was no evil actually done.

Sure there was, and WILL BE. You don't think evil happens when brother is purposely set against brother?

FK: ***Matt 13:24-30 ***

There was no evil actually done.

IT'S A PARABLE and Jesus specifically says "this is what the Kingdom of Heaven is like".

FK: ***There are lots of examples. The Bible is clear that God uses the evil of others to accomplish His purposes.***

God rues the performance of evil.

Sure, on one level. I'm sure He rued the crucifixion itself, but He still made it happen by using the evil of others. We know for certain it was the Father's will from Jesus' prayer.

FK: ***Look to the entire story of the crucifixion or prophecy in general. ***

Are you calling the Crucifixion evil?

No, I'm saying look at all the evil it took for the whole thing to happen. There was treachery, lying, false trials, mockery, the knowing punishment, torture and murder of an innocent man, etc. The list goes on and on. Yet, it was no accident. God was in control of the whole thing, using all of these evils, the whole time.

6,477 posted on 07/12/2008 2:18:16 AM PDT by Forest Keeper (It is a joy to me to know that God had my number, before He created numbers.)
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To: Forest Keeper

Thank you so much for sharing your insights, dear brother in Christ!


6,478 posted on 07/12/2008 6:56:26 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Forest Keeper

Okay, I will grant that Joseph said that God used evil to accomplish good. But if we go from the OT to the New, Jesus speaks of Judgement and punishment for the evils that men do, not the doing of evil for good purposes.

The Crucifixion would have happened with or without lies, deceit, false trials etc. Did they not happen on a fairly regular basis anyway (I mean lies, deceit, false trials)?


6,488 posted on 07/14/2008 9:06:52 AM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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