The doctrine of irresistible grace has to do only with salvational grace, the grace that changes the heart. If we had free will with regard to salvational grace, then no one would ever be saved, OR, we would have reason to boast.
If Adam and Eve could fall from grace, surely we can fall from grace as well.
Apples and oranges. You can't compare when the starting positions were so opposite.
Love is free and unconditional or it doesn’t exist. Jesus is love and mercy; the Reformed God isn’t, at least according to the WCF.
If you would say this then you must have hatred for the Reformed God. Perhaps this is evidence of your efforts to be like the Catholic Christ? :)
***The doctrine of irresistible grace has to do only with salvational grace, the grace that changes the heart.***
The frogmarching grace you mean. :)
***If we had free will with regard to salvational grace, then no one would ever be saved,***
Really? Then why does Jesus spent most of the Gospels instructing us on what to do and what not to do?
Rom 11:
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See, then, the kindness and severity of God: severity toward those who fell, but God’s kindness to you, provided you remain in his kindness; otherwise you too will be cut off.
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And they also, if they do not remain in unbelief, will be grafted in, for God is able to graft them in again.
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For if you were cut from what is by nature a wild olive tree, and grafted, contrary to nature, into a cultivated one, how much more will they who belong to it by nature be grafted back into their own olive tree.
Paul is saying that it is possible to lose one’s salvation and that it is possible to be lost and then to regain one’s salvation.
***Apples and oranges. You can’t compare when the starting positions were so opposite.***
They started without sin and they disobeyed - which is the first definition of sin in the OT - disobedience to God.
***If you would say this then you must have hatred for the Reformed God.***
I find it difficult to hate something that doesn’t exist. Global warming comes to mind.
***Perhaps this is evidence of your efforts to be like the Catholic Christ? :)***
We are all called to imitate Christ. My imitation is a rather poor one and I would not like all Christians to be judged according me.
1 Corinthians
Chapter 11
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Be imitators of me, as I am of Christ.
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1 I praise you because you remember me in everything and hold fast to the traditions, just as I handed them on to you.
Where does Christ speak of "salvational grace?" Get real.
Mark: If Adam and Eve could fall from grace, surely we can fall from grace as well.
FK: Apples and oranges. You can't compare when the starting positions were so opposite.
What? If man, who knew no evil and had it all, could fall from grace, certainly the wounded nature we all have can do the same a lot easier.