That verse doesn't say how to worship.
We are also given more clues in verses like James 4:8 (Come near to God and He will come near to you
Oh I see...and how do you come to God? Is it not God who comes to us first?
I mean that there are no material differences that would lead a reader to a manifestly different faith if he followed any of the respective texts
Sure there are. The KJV is decidely protestantized. You are also forgetting the Septuagint, the Old Testament of the Apostles which the West flatly rejects.
The Portestants/Baptists also reject the books the early Church considered part of the scripture and does to this day.
So your statement is oatently false.
Jesus spoke about many things that can be considered "core beliefs". They include His deity, His resurrection, His atonement for our sins, and His second coming
Where does Jesus call Himself God? Don't give me answers that point or suggest, but rather where does He say "I am God?"
Where does He say His was a virgin borth? Does He claim that?
The Christian "core beliefs" is a Triune God (in every respect coeternal and substantial), a Hypostatic Union of Christ's Incarnation, and Mary being the vrigin brithgiver of our Lord. As far as I can tell, Christ never speaks of either of those.
Oh, I'll take it up with Him alright. :) I'll ask Him that if you are right, why did He lie to us about His power in His word. The possibility that you don't consider is that He orchestrated every detail of everything that has happened for His own reasons, not fully explainable by us
Then I have nothing to say to Him. If I am wrong in my beliefs, it would be His "orchestration," that irresistable divine "tractor beam" leadings us around.
If God is a mere reactor to man's doings, then He is also a liar, according to the scriptures.
He came to save the world which became corrupt. But since you beloieve that God oirchestrated man's corruption I giuess His coming to earth was just for show. As far as lying is cocnerned, the OT tells us that God sends deceving spirits. Does that make God a deceiver? Maybe the way OT authors saw God, yes. But Christ is an altogether different story.
FK: Here: John 4:23-24...
Kosta: That verse doesn't say how to worship.
Sure it does, it says to worship in spirit and in truth. THAT'S HOW! :) If you are looking for what time the service should start it's not there, but so what?
FK: I mean that there are no material differences that would lead a reader to a manifestly different faith if he followed any of the respective texts.
Sure there are. The KJV is decidedly protestantized. You are also forgetting the Septuagint, the Old Testament of the Apostles which the West flatly rejects.
I meant the SPECIFIC respective texts that I listed and said I was familiar with, i.e. the NIV, KJV, and ESV. As far as the Septuagint is concerned I am unaware of how its text would destroy the faith of Bible believing Christians.
The Protestants/Baptists also reject the books the early Church considered part of the scripture and does to this day.
Presumably this is the same early Church that you just admitted to me recently was in grievous error right off the bat.
Where does Jesus call Himself God? Don't give me answers that point or suggest, but rather where does He say "I am God?"
I'm pretty sure I've already posted those scriptures to you on this very thread. I don't have better ones that I was holding in reserve. :) The Gospels are crystal clear in quoting Jesus proclaiming Himself to be God. Eyes to see and ears to hear. If you disallow Jesus from even saying THAT, then anything goes.
Where does He say His was a virgin birth? Does He claim that?
Yes, although I can't think of a Biblical quote from Him directly, He claims that through His revelation to us in scripture. However, if one decided to nullify the scriptures, then I suppose one would only have to decide which group of fallible men to follow to "know" such things. The faith would be in the men.