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To: kosta50; MarkBsnr; stfassisi; irishtenor; Dr. Eckleburg; Gamecock
FK: But the Apostolic Church condemns your personal view of the scriptures. The Apostolic Church holds that the scriptures are Holy, and you do not. Your true Bible is only a few pages long.

You have a remarkably short memory, FK. Not so long ago I posted the official position of the Orthodox Church on the Scriptures, and this was actually my third such post.

I remember that link, and while it did say that the Orthodox Church believes that the scriptures are SUBJECT to human error, in no way is it anywhere implied that MOST of the scriptures are patently FALSE as far as fact goes. In fact, in the various Orthodox Catechisms I just consulted, they all say that whole of scriptures are "VERY IMPORTANT" to the Orthodox faith. You CANNOT tell me that you agree with that as far as you personally are concerned, based on what you have been saying.

Just to flesh it out, since you appear to challenge my assertion that the Orthodox Church disavows your view of scripture, do you say that the Church AGREES with your view of scriptures and the things you have been saying about them?

6,382 posted on 07/03/2008 4:40:33 AM PDT by Forest Keeper (It is a joy to me to know that God had my number, before He created numbers.)
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To: Forest Keeper; MarkBsnr; irishtenor; Dr. Eckleburg
In fact, in the various Orthodox Catechisms I just consulted, they all say that whole of scriptures are "VERY IMPORTANT" to the Orthodox faith. You CANNOT tell me that you agree with that as far as you personally are concerned, based on what you have been saying.

But of course I do, FK! There is a world of difference in saying the Scriptures are "God's inerrant word" and the "Scriptures are very important to our faith."

Why are Scriptures so very important to us? Because our faith is a way of life. The message of our Sunday scriptural passages are to be taken with us home and lived. Each chapter of the Gospel carries in it a moral of the story to be used and followed in our journey.

Just to flesh it out, since you appear to challenge my assertion that the Orthodox Church disavows your view of scripture, do you say that the Church AGREES with your view of scriptures and the things you have been saying about them?

The Church reads the Gospels and the Epistles as they are written without making judgment on their factual veracity. The Church is not concerned with the historicity of the events, but with the spiritual message in them.

I can definitely state that the Church interprets the Bible in the allegorical sense, and that this has been the practice of the Church ever since the beginning and that it comes from messianic Judaism.

I was shocked some years ago when an Orthodox priest told me that even if Christianity never happened, it should have been invented! What he meant with that is that if it took a fictional narrative to convey the love of God, so be it.

We believe that God revealed Himself in love and that whatever conveys love to the rest of humanity is from God. That can be a factual act of mercy, or a fictional story, it makes very little difference. It is God's love that is real to all believers no matter how it is conveyed.

6,402 posted on 07/07/2008 1:38:09 PM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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