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To: kosta50; MarkBsnr; stfassisi; irishtenor; Dr. Eckleburg; Gamecock
I just can't see why a single person sleeping around is necessarily committing "adultery" and comparing him to another man who is cheating on his wife.

I infer from this:

Matt 5:27-28 : 27 "You have heard that it was said, 'Do not commit adultery.' 28 But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart.

Presumably, going ahead with intercourse would qualify as committing adultery with the body. :) It seems reasonable to me that Jesus is talking about any sex between any man and any woman who are not married to each other.

Then we agree that any (unrepentant) sin leads to "death" in a sense that it will result in eternal separation from God?

Yes, assuming that there remains no atonement for that sin.

And that means, in the eyes of God, one sin is no different than another.

For that purpose, YES. Since Christ atoned for all sins of the elect, we can also discuss that committing one sin three times is worse than committing the same sin once because the Bible teaches that we should NEVER sin, and that every commission of every sin is an offense against God. While salvation may not be at issue, punishment and discipline certainly are. The regenerated mind should not want to habitually sin because the regenerated mind wants to please God.

The murder [of Uriah] was an after thought, and a separate sin. If she did not conceive, he would probably not have murdered her husband, and still get away with adultery.

OK, I agree with that. I thought you were trying to say that the murder didn't really matter if David just wrapped everything up into the sin of adultery and confessed only adultery.

6,378 posted on 07/03/2008 1:27:04 AM PDT by Forest Keeper (It is a joy to me to know that God had my number, before He created numbers.)
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To: Forest Keeper; MarkBsnr; stfassisi; irishtenor; Dr. Eckleburg; Gamecock
It seems reasonable to me that Jesus is talking about any sex between any man and any woman who are not married to each other

That's adultery??? I think you have that wrong, FK.

6,394 posted on 07/06/2008 8:01:46 PM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: Forest Keeper; MarkBsnr; stfassisi; irishtenor; Dr. Eckleburg; Gamecock

Yes, assuming that there remains no atonement for that sin

Do you believe there is atonement after death? One must repent of a sin in order for that sin to be forgiven. That must take place before death.

I am afraid some Christians place repentance on the back burner and simply assume they will be saved no matter what (back to that 'pecca fortiter' which I will reply on some time in the future when I have more time). Only a devil could devise such a deceitful belief to give false hope.

While salvation may not be at issue, punishment and discipline certainly are

That's what I thought some Christians believe and you prove my point above. What punishment can be worse than eternal separation from God, an eternal spiritual darkness? It seems to me that some only see the atonement part, and not the repentance part that the Bible speaks of. There is no forgiveness without repentance, FK. The sooner you realize that's the message of the entire Bible (even the OT), the sooner you will understand Christ's accomplishment on the Cross, which made it possible for us to be saved.

The regenerated mind should not want to habitually sin because the regenerated mind wants to please God.

It's irrelevant. The regenerated man still sins. But the regenerated man will also repent of his sins, not in order to buy his way into heaven but because he regrets having turned away from God, because he places God first and all the wordily things second, because He loves God and doesn't wish to sin against Him. The key is love for God, not fear of what level of punishment He will exact. The key is shame for our ungratefulness to God, because every time we sin we are showing our ingratitude.

6,396 posted on 07/06/2008 8:17:02 PM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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