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To: Forest Keeper; Kolokotronis; irishtenor; blue-duncan; Mad Dawg; HarleyD; stfassisi; ...
Kosta: The OT is what it is: foreshadowing of Christianity. It is not Christianity. Without the OT, you would still have Christianity if all you had were the NT.

FK: False. Without the OT you would have New Testamentism, but NOT Christianity

So, the Gospels and the rest of the New Testament would lead us to believe what? In Zeus? The fact is the OT does not lead anyone to believe in a Christ-like God, otherwise the Jews would have accepted Christ as their Messiah.

Jesus certainly cared about the OT and quoted from it often. He also upheld the Law given in the OT. Jesus admonished those who did not know the OT, and so I want to follow Jesus by believing that the OT is important and has relevance to our Christianity today

It's important and has relevance but it is not defining. It is the ground prepared for the Church. But the truths quoted from the OT would have still been valid had they been stated as such in the Gospels. You seem to have no problem accepting the statement in Heb 11:5 even though it has no OT counterpart. So, here again we see man-made rules as to what is true and what isn't.

5,412 posted on 05/08/2008 10:10:56 AM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodox is pure Christianity)
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To: kosta50; Kolokotronis; irishtenor; blue-duncan; Mad Dawg; HarleyD; stfassisi; Dr. Eckleburg
The fact is the OT does not lead anyone to believe in a Christ-like God, otherwise the Jews would have accepted Christ as their Messiah.

The OT is not a complete revelation, but it is vital to understand what God wants us to understand. It DOES teach faith in the correct God. Everything that was revealed was in God's own time and by His design. You can't throw out the OT because it's not the NT. Billions of people don't believe in the NT so does that mean we should throw that out too? :)

5,447 posted on 05/09/2008 10:54:06 AM PDT by Forest Keeper (It is a joy to me to know that God had my number, before He created numbers.)
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To: kosta50; Forest Keeper; Kolokotronis; blue-duncan; Mad Dawg; HarleyD; stfassisi

***The fact is the OT does not lead anyone to believe in a Christ-like God, otherwise the Jews would have accepted Christ as their Messiah.***

You’d have to try really hard NOT to see Christ in the Psalms, Kosta.


5,450 posted on 05/09/2008 11:39:38 AM PDT by irishtenor (Check out my blog at http://boompa53.blogspot.com/)
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