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To: kosta50; annalex; Kolokotronis; Forest Keeper; stfassisi
HD-According to Rom 5:12 we have actually sinned, which is the way God views the matter

kosta-Wow, that's pretty bombastic! The Greeks who read the original in their language disagreed then and do so to this day.

I haven't had the time to read all the arguments out here but I believe FK touched upon the logic of original sin. If you were to take civilization throughout all of history, you cannot produce one person who history recorded as without sin except for Christ (we'll leave the discussion of Mary for another time). Statistically speaking, if original sin was left up to man, then 50% of mankind should be sinful and 50% should be pure. Yet not one can be produce who was without sin.

One thing is certain: the words in Rom 5:12 are sloppily wirtten and ambiguous enough to cause different opinions

On the contrary, I think they are perfectly clear and people just don't wish to acknowledge original sin. The reason is clear. They believe they are in control of their live able to make decisions. Let me ask you this, do you want to sin? Do you consciencely make a "free" choice to sin against God exercising your "free will"?

5,256 posted on 04/30/2008 5:59:56 PM PDT by HarleyD
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To: HarleyD; annalex; Kolokotronis; Forest Keeper; stfassisi
I haven't had the time to read all the arguments out here but I believe FK touched upon the logic of original sin<...On the contrary, I think they are perfectly clear and people just don't wish to acknowledge original sin

Your answer tells me you either didn't read it at all or you didn't understand it at all.

5,258 posted on 04/30/2008 7:59:12 PM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodox is pure Christianity)
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