Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article

To: kosta50; Mad Dawg
But you are exaggerating our Father-child relationship with God. God created man to be a rational, moral being, capable of mercy and compassion, not some little child.

You mean sort of like a reasonably independent adult, one who is capable of deciding what is best for himself? This is the same analogy I was talking with MD about recently. Reformers don't see it that way at all. We see man as little more than a toddler next to God. We are totally dependent on Him for everything. We believe that many of the true OT stories of the Israelites reveal this.

...... but it is much more important to come to God freely than to be forced, because forced love in no love.

All Christians DO come to God freely. The difference appears to be with what heart do we come. You appear to come with the fallen heart you were born with. We come to God with a new heart that God GAVE us. Did you choose to be born with your fallen heart? Neither did we choose our new heart. That new heart is the only thing that allows us to freely come to Christ. Reformers are grateful to God that this new heart is of such high quality that God's wishes are accomplished every time. Your side appears to hold the position that it is unfair to use a God-given heart to come to God UNLESS it is defective. :)

5,232 posted on 04/29/2008 10:33:09 PM PDT by Forest Keeper (It is a joy to me to know that God had my number, before He created numbers.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5115 | View Replies ]


To: Forest Keeper; Mad Dawg
We see man as little more than a toddler next to God. We are totally dependent on Him for everything. We believe that many of the true OT stories of the Israelites reveal this

Maybe that's the "problem." We (Orthodox/Catholic) follow the Gospels. Being a Christian means imitating Christ, or those appointed by Him. That's hardly a parent-toddler relationship.

All Christians DO come to God freely. The difference appears to be with what heart do we come.

The Church is made up of sinners, not saints. We come to Christ with wounded hearts in need of healing, and Christ said He would heal them, not replace them.

5,239 posted on 04/30/2008 7:12:57 AM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodox is pure Christianity)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5232 | View Replies ]

Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson