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To: kosta50; Mad Dawg; Kolokotronis
To some tribal shaman, a thought occurred that the rumbling volcano might be an angry god and that something had to be done to appease him. To make his conviction "true" he presets it as something the volcano god revealed to him. And when various sacrifices failed to "tame" the angry "god," they believed they didn't do enough, and the "god" didn't hear they prayers. Sounds familiar, right?

No, it doesn't sound familiar TO ME. To the shaman, the basis for his faith in the volcano god was whatever he made up himself, or was told by other men. IOW, nothing. THAT sounds familiar to me. :) By contrast, we have the Holy scriptures which are God's revelation to us directly. The shaman didn't have God-breathed words.

5,106 posted on 04/24/2008 3:07:38 PM PDT by Forest Keeper (It is a joy to me to know that God had my number, before He created numbers.)
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To: Forest Keeper; Mad Dawg; Kolokotronis
By contrast, we have the Holy scriptures which are God's revelation to us directly.

Hinduism is a revealed religion, and so is Manichean Gnosticism (Blessed Augustine of Hippo belonged to that Christian cult before becoming Christian). In fact, the latter was seriously competing with Christianity.

The shaman didn't have God-breathed words

How do you know that? Origen was a superb theologian, and yet he believed the true revelation to be that of Gnostics. They all believed in Christ too, and used the Scripture. What proof do you have that any of the books in the Bible are "God-breathed?" Do they glow in the dark? Do they have a seal of authenticity on them?

5,111 posted on 04/24/2008 7:54:58 PM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodox is pure Christianity)
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To: Forest Keeper; kosta50
“The shaman didn't have God-breathed words.”

FK, have you ever heard of the concept of “sporoi”? The word means “seeds” and the Fathers spoke of flashes of the revelation of God to mankind among, generally, pre-Christian pagans as “sporoi”. These seeds of The Truth are seen through history and throughout the world. Hinduism and Buddhism are full of them. Since we don't and can't know where the Spirit goes, it seems to me we ought not to make such blanket statements as yours above.

5,118 posted on 04/25/2008 3:28:34 AM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated)
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