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To: Forest Keeper; Kolokotronis; stfassisi
Look at the words: "... Himself prepared this body in the virgin as a temple for Himself, and took it for His very own" (emphasis added). This is a correct statement, but un-Orthodox because it does not recognize that God could not have entered this "temple" without the gracious assent of Mary

Nothing happened until Mary gave her consent.

Sounds like consent to me. Christian God does not rape.

5,063 posted on 04/22/2008 4:57:42 PM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodox is pure Christianity)
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To: kosta50; Kolokotronis; stfassisi; HarleyD
Nothing happened until Mary gave her consent.

"And Mary said, 'Behold, the bondslave of the Lord; may it be done to me according to your word." And the angel departed from her.' [Luk 1:38]

Sounds like consent to me. Christian God does not rape.

Well, you read it as Mary saying: "I will grant you my grace such that I will allow you to save humanity." I read it as Mary saying: "Yes sir." If I agreed with the Apostolic theology on this I would not venerate Mary at all, I would worship her openly for she would be worth it. As you said, God was "impotent" to the task until Mary gave her permission. Perhaps you can understand better why Protestants look with raised eyebrows towards the veneration of Mary. :) If she really is everything you guys say she is, then she really would be worthy of worship.

5,160 posted on 04/25/2008 7:38:26 PM PDT by Forest Keeper (It is a joy to me to know that God had my number, before He created numbers.)
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