This is a detail of the Icon of the Pantokrator from the dome of the church of the monastery at Daphni. He doesn't look weak, FK...and He clearly is not in the least amused, maybe with the notion that He is weak.
FK: Your conclusion is pure speculation based on something EXTREMELY unlikely. Possible, yes, but likely, no way.
Kosta: I would say impossible, FK. The Christian God would never do that! But the Reformed theology teaches us that their God would, for his own "glory" no less!
Yes, if Hitler truly repented and asked Christ into His heart just before he died, then the Reformed God would accept him. I did not know that with the Apostolic God, it is too late for some while they live on earth. One of the reasons the Reformed God is glorified is that it is NEVER too late for anyone to repent.
You admitted earlier that God willed evil as a necessary element in his "plan." Here you admit that God had his hand in the Holocaust, exerting divine control over it.
Where you want to go I cannot follow. Yes, God had control over the Holocaust, but He did not force anyone to sin. The alternative is a weak God who is not in control and just lets whatever happens, happen. That God demonstrates extreme irresponsibility and should have His license to create REVOKED. :)
Are you really not capable of seeing where this theology comes from?
Sure I am. The Holy Scriptures. :)
This is a detail of the Icon of the Pantokrator from the dome of the church of the monastery at Daphni. He doesn't look weak, FK...and He clearly is not in the least amused, maybe with the notion that He is weak.
He will accept a repentant Hitler, but he will use "evil" infants, who die, as hell's fire logs (since we are all born "evil," as you reminded me)? The infants who did absolutely nothing evil, the infants who cannot repent (for their future sins!), the Reformed God will send to hell because they are "evil" infants!
So, here we have another fine example of the Reformed insanity: if Hitler died as an infant, he would go to hell for sure because God would see him as evil. But if Hitler repented in his bunker before he died, God would accept him, and all his evil deeds would be forgiven?
Reformed theology 101: make sure you live to adulthood, even if the Reformed God predestined you to commit most heinous crimes, and then repent before you die. If you have the bad luck of dying as an infant, tough! You are a fire log!
But, we have a complicating matter here: if Hitler repented, and then shot himself, does that wipe out the forgiveness he received for his sins and restores his guilt, or is he now only guilty of suicide?
Tell me, FK, are there different "tiers" in hell (just in reverse fashion from those in heaven), i.e. for those who "just" committed grave sins, such as suicide ("grave," it kills you, get it, LOL!), and another (I suppose hotter tier) for those mass murders and rapists? And one can only speculate as to what temperature (white light, billions of degrees F) reserved for people like (unrepentant) Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, etc.!
Yes, God had control over the Holocaust, but He did not force anyone to sin
But [the Reformed] God predestined them to sin, and they had no choice but to sin!
The alternative is a weak God who is not in control and just lets whatever happens, happen
For how many generations did this strong [Reformed] God sit back and did nothing before he decided to drown the whole earth because this sovereign [Reformed] God did absolutely nothing to prevent man from extreme wickedness? (cf Gen 6:6)
Does this mean that this strong Reformed God just sat back and let things happen, or does it mean that men became wicked on His watch because this Reformed God willed it ? [and then got angry when he got what he willed?!]
That God demonstrates extreme irresponsibility and should have His license to create REVOKED
Yeah, but God is under no obligation to be fair and balanced...for, no matter what he does, he is never subjected to any responsibility! :)