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“”What if Mark witnessed to the mugging victim, who then became a Christian, who then went on to evangelize hundreds more in her lifetime.Would it be worth it then?””

The mistake you're making in all of this is giving credit to the sin for the reason that Mark witnessed to the mugging victim,thus further giving credit to sin for mugging victim witnessing to others.

One would think that in the mind of the reformed that the all powerful God would be capable of having Mark witness to the mugging victim WITHOUT a mugging even taking place? Yet somehow this is what you call weakness!

You have thoroughly convinced me that reformed theology takes temptation out of the hands of the devil,thus taking personal sin out of the hands of man in order for God to ordain sin for the good of the elect.

In reformed theology goodness cannot be goodness unless its mugged, raped, murdered, aborted etc...

And you call this a God of love,God of goodness?

Lord have Mercy ,Dear Brother.

I pray you open your eyes!

The mistake you're making in all of this is giving credit to the sin for the reason that Mark witnessed to the mugging victim,thus further giving credit to sin for mugging victim witnessing to others.

No. No "credit" ever goes to sin. All credit for anything good always goes to God. God accomplishes His plan through many means. Through a hypo I am showing that in ALL things God works for the good of those who love Him. All things means all things.

One would think that in the mind of the reformed that the all powerful God would be capable of having Mark witness to the mugging victim WITHOUT a mugging even taking place?

Well of course He could, and often does in billions of other cases. But God decides under what circumstances everything will happen. This was just a hypothetical.

You have thoroughly convinced me that reformed theology takes temptation out of the hands of the devil, thus taking personal sin out of the hands of man in order for God to ordain sin for the good of the elect.

I am sorry if you have gotten that idea from me. In no way is that Reformed thinking. God never tempts, only satan does. Through the principles of first and second causes, God ordains His will, and man is responsible for the sin he commits. God, not man, is sovereign and in control.

In reformed theology goodness cannot be goodness unless its mugged, raped, murdered, aborted etc...

I'm afraid I have no clue at all what you mean.