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To: Dr. Eckleburg; irishtenor; Alamo-Girl; wmfights; HarleyD; Manfred the Wonder Dawg; Quix; kosta50; ..
[Ephesians 2:8-10] Of course this perspective takes the power of salvation away from men and magisteriums and returns it to God alone, so I can understand why some would prefer to muddy the waters and paint God's world in shades of gray.

Amen to your whole post, Dr. E. I think many of their beliefs are by necessity, despite scripture, in order to protect the sovereignty of both the individual as against God, and the collective that rules over the individuals. If God is irrational and unknowable, there is nothing for them to cling to but man himself as the starting point. That's all they have left. To deny the complete sovereignty of God is to deny His universal answers. Man by design is built to search for those answers and so the only place for them to find those answers is in the hierarchy of the Church. Wholly inadequate, of course, but that's the price they pay.

4,830 posted on 04/07/2008 11:13:55 PM PDT by Forest Keeper (It is a joy to me to know that God had my number, before He created numbers.)
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[Ephesians 2:8-10] Of course this perspective takes the power of salvation away from men and magisteriums and returns it to God alone, so I can understand why some would prefer to muddy the waters and paint God’s world in shades of gray.

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Amen to your whole post, Dr. E. I think many of their beliefs are by necessity, despite scripture, in order to protect the sovereignty of both the individual as against God, and the collective that rules over the individuals. If God is irrational and unknowable, there is nothing for them to cling to but man himself as the starting point. That’s all they have left. To deny the complete sovereignty of God is to deny His universal answers. Man by design is built to search for those answers and so the only place for them to find those answers is in the hierarchy of the Church. Wholly inadequate, of course, but that’s the price they pay.

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WELL PUT, imho.

Thanks.


4,831 posted on 04/08/2008 2:33:20 AM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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