[Truelove]

Soooo, just where do you think you got “the bible” dear? That would be “from the Catholic Church”. Leave Mexico and Peru alone. They have problems, but heresy is not the answer, finish corrupting Amerika first.

[Manfred the Wonder Dawg]

It’s a lie from hell that the RCC “gave” anyone the Bible. That tale is as much a fabrication of man as is the lie that the Apostle Peter was a pope or that Mary was without sin.

The RCC tried to keep the Bible away from people for centuries, contending that only “God’s anointed” could properly understand it. The RCC killed people rather than let them read the Bible for themselves.

Try another lie.

[Quix]

Hmmmmm . . . and the sociological participant observers would class that exhortation as . . .

A) A reasoned, calm, Unrubberized Bible based bit of advice
B) A flip retort
C) An embittered diatribe
D) A flattering gesture

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Personally, I’m convinced we got the unrubberized Bible from . . . drum roll . . .

GOD ALMIGHTY.

He used various characters along the way in that plan . . .

finally 300-400 years later, a cluster of quasi politically powerful ecclesiastics . . . some from diverse regions . . . agreed about what God had done.

I’m sure God was quite flattered.

Ya know, Dr E . . . it still somewhat amazes me . . .

Some folks act like our pontifications are new information . . . like we are saying horribly startling things out of the blue, with no evidence, for the first time etc. etc. etc. and etc.

And that they are duty bound to erupt like Old Faithful geyser . . . full of steaming water . . . in knee-jerk fashion at every perceived hint of a slight or insult or whatever is against their construction on reality.

Given that you are such a wonderful spokesperson for the Calvinists . . .

What is WRONG WITH THEM! Why aren’t THEY acting like 2 year olds in constant outrage that all the 4 year olds don’t agree with their construction on reality?

WHY OH WHY aren’t the Calvinists CONTINUALLY OUTRAGED; foaming at the mouth; flailing about at every falling leaf; terminally incensed; rushing about like a whirling dervish in sack-cloth and ashes . . . because ANYONE in the rest of the world DARES to construe reality differently?

Are the Calvinists lacking in zeal and fervor for The truly truest true truth most truly truthedly trothed? Are THEY LACKING in backbones made of cacti?

Maybe their Sunday Schools don’t include lessons in THE IDOLATRY OF FLAILING ABOUT???

Maybe Calvinists haven’t been properly taught about the ABSOLUTE ETERNAL LIFE ESSENTIAL OF WORSHIPPING CALVINISM and all the ivy encrusted edifi, structures, organizations, and reference groups sprouting his name?

Perhaps THEIR pontifical magicstericals are . . . what . . . asleep at the switch? Trusting in GOD ALONE [the horror of it all]? Spending too much time bowing and scraping at Calvin’s bier? What?

Why no irate pontifical fiercely embittered and outraged diatribes from the Calvinists? Are they wimpy Christians?

Or are they just older than grade school?

But it must be suuuuucccchhhhh a TRIAL to endure ANYONE who doesn’t bow and scrape at Calvin’s bier. How can Calvinists stand it? What kind of meds do they take?

Maybe there’s a mantra they say for serenity’s sake . . . what must it be . . . I wonder . . .

OHHHHHH CALVIN FULL OF CHIPMUNKS [ooops, wrong Calvin. sorry.]

OHHHHH CLAVIN, FULL OF GRAPES
GRACE US WITH YOUR ETERNAL
PONTIFICAL MAGNANIMITY.

LET US ENJOY YOUR OMNICIENT
UNDERSTANDING AND PREDESTINED
INTERCESSIONS FOR OUR HUMBLE
UNCHOSEN DESTINIES.

HERE WE ARE UNGENUFLECTING
IN YOUR BEHALF BECAUSE YOU
OH GRACIOUS CALVIN DOTH
BESTOWEST UPON YOUR HUMBLE
PENITENTS SUCH WONDERUS
GRAPES—ERR GRACES.
MAY YOUR INTERCESSIONS
NEVER END OH MIGHTY CALVIN.

= = = =

Would the mantra go something like that? Maybe briefer?

I’m trying to imagine if the author of the original post of this thread had discovered Calvinists in Peru and Mexico behaving as described . . .

would the Calvinists hereon all be in need of rabies shots for all their foaming at the mouth as the fitting and holy demonstration of their holy duty?

I could sort of imagine some strong retorts of a very intellectual sort. One or two might show some slight emotion underneath all the pontifical dreary intellectualism. But, I’d think, most would kind of go—tsk tsk—what balderdash. And walk on by—unless, of course, they were clever and humble enough to consider the evidence on its merits and discuss it accordingly.

What a novel idea.

[ScubieNuc]

Soooo, just where do you think you got “the bible” dear? That would be “from the Catholic Church”.

First, calling me dear, is condesending and does not add to this discussion. Second, only my wife calls me dear and I know you ain't her, so please leave that title off next time. Thank you.

Now, to answer where the Bible came from...It came from God. More specifically, it came from the Holy Spirit inspiring men to write.

John 14:16-17,25-26 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;

[Even] the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.

These things have I spoken unto you, being [yet] present with you.

But the Comforter, [which is] the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

The organization you think of as the Catholic Church didn't exist until around 300 years after Christ and about 200 years after the Bible (or more specifically the New Testament) was written. The canonization of the Bible didn't make the Bible worthy, all it did was publically recognize what God had inspired.

Do you realize that the Same Holy Spirit that inspired the Bible is given to all who accept Jesus as Savior so that you have an everlasting guide and comforter?

Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

They have problems, but heresy is not the answer, finish corrupting Amerika first.

I'm not sure what you are insinuating other then I am a heretic. If that is what you are saying then please show me Scripture that backs that up, because that is a serious charge. Second, if you have proof that I'm 'corrupting Amerika' then please show the proof of that also. Otherwise your statements are just personal attacks which are against FR guidelines and don't add to the conversation.

Finally, why did you spell America with a "k"? That looks Nazi-ish to me and is offensive. All through my family ancestory from the Revolution to today, my family has served, bleed, and died to build and protect America.

I served 6 years in the Navy protecting AmeriCa. I am a law abiding, tax paying citizen. I am active in the Boy Scouts, my Church, my kids schools, and my community. My priorities are God first, Family second, and Country third. Telling me I'm corrupting America (with a bad spelling) doesn't help your position in the least.

If you disagree with my position...fine, but let's leave the slandering elsewhere. Thank you.

[Dr. Eckleburg]

Soooo, just where do you think you got "the bible" dear? That would be "from the Catholic Church".

The Bible is proclaimed despite Rome's ages-old attempts to silence it as some of us have even experienced on this very forum.

If Rome had its way, there would be no Bibles written in English, or German, or French, or Swahili. And most likely they'd still be chaining the Bible to the altar.

But God will not be mocked, and His word accomplishes exactly what He intends...

"So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it." -- Isaiah 55:11

[the_conscience]

Soooo, just where do you think you got “the bible” dear? That would be “from the Catholic Church”.

Soooo, what Romanist Council did Jesus and the Apostles fall back on to know what was Scripture?