Dear FK, What you are saying here is that God planned sin in all 3 people in this scenario in order for one person to do good.
That is not a God of love,Dear Brother
First, even the thought of going to the nudie bar is a sin,adding to more sin by actually going there.
Second, the mugger is sinning, and that could not be planned by God either.
Third, the person being mugged is sinning by being in the nudie bar as well.
Don't you realize that what you are saying is that God puts sin into our minds purposely?
It is the devil that tempts us to sin,Dear brother.
When are you going to realize that God would not want there to be a nudie bar in the first place?
Or are you going to tell us that God planned that as well?
I wish you a Blessed day!
Dear FK, What you are saying here is that God planned sin in all 3 people in this scenario in order for one person to do good. That is not a God of love, Dear Brother.
Not at all. I would never presume to know the extent of God's plan for any one event. As you know, almost (if not all of) everything that happens can have significant consequences directly resulting from it. Those consequences lead to other consequences. What if Mark witnessed to the mugging victim, who then became a Christian, who then went on to evangelize hundreds more in her lifetime. Would it be worth it then? Would THAT be a God of love? The point is that it happened because God wanted it to happen. We can't judge the results since we can't possibly know.
First, even the thought of going to the nudie bar is a sin,adding to more sin by actually going there.
Of course it's sin, but so is nailing Jesus to a cross. I don't think that was an accident or by random chance. Otherwise, we should be thanking the god of luck rather than a sovereign God.
Second, the mugger is sinning, and that could not be planned by God either.
It can't be CAUSED by God in the sense of God "zapping" the mugger to force him to mug, but it can certainly be a part of God's plan. The Bible is full of examples, unless it was all by chance.
When are you going to realize that God would not want there to be a nudie bar in the first place?
It always comes back to what God "wants" and what He decrees. The weak God truly wants these things (or their absence), but He does not have the power or inclination or care to do anything about it. This weak God lets man do whatever he wants, and gives control over to man to determine the most important things to man. You would call this a God of love? Not me. To me this is a God who doesn't care one way or the other. If His children kill themselves, so what, it was their choice, etc. That's not love, that's negligence. :)
Don't you see that in your model all men must be presumed to be able to know and act in their own best interest, on their own, with their unaffected free wills? Do you think that is really true? I know it is not. I have asked before how under your model some come to believe and some don't. I have asked : "is it because some are smarter, more talented, or what?" Is it because some love more? Where did that love come from, was it self-generated? If not, why didn't God give everyone enough love to believe? I can go on and on. The logic of all of this falls apart right away. :)
In any event, I also wish you a Blessed day! :)