[kosta50]

"Then" was a give-away (post 4603)

"Then" was a giweaway of what? I was responding to your ridiculous statement that Peter had the freedom but didn't because it was "perfectly possible" for predestination and free will to co-exist.

If this were true, then Peter's freedom is faux freedom and he would be deceived into believing otherwise.

I followed that with "And Christian God doesn't lie" which you conveniently left out in order for you to declare "God doesn't lie" ad make it look like I suggested otherwise. That's pathetic, A-G.

Leave a door open and chances are pretty good someone will walk through it

The door was not open. You opened it. It's like a thief who says "the alarm wasn't set, so I walked in."

But, what's good for the goose is good for the gander. Those who live by the sword, die by the sword. What you sow if what you reap.

[Alamo-Girl]

That's pathetic, A-G.

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What you sow if what you reap.

It is truly sad when man judges man - because he will indeed be judged exactly the same way. Judging is self-indicting.

Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. - Matthew 7:1-2

Therefore thou art inexcusable, O man, whosoever thou art that judgest: for wherein thou judgest another, thou condemnest thyself; for thou that judgest doest the same things. - Romans 2:1

And even if there is cause for offense, the one who judges - who harbors the resentment - is cut-off as long as he refuses to forgive.

And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors. - Matthew 6:12

For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you: But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses. - Matthew 6:14-15

Therefore I say unto you, What things soever ye desire, when ye pray, believe that ye receive [them], and ye shall have [them]. And when ye stand praying, forgive, if ye have ought against any: that your Father also which is in heaven may forgive you your trespasses. But if ye do not forgive, neither will your Father which is in heaven forgive your trespasses. - Mark 11:24-26

But what's "pathetic" in my view is man - any man - judging God.

The error of man's judging God by his own rules of logic (e.g. either/or, the Law of the Excluded Middle) was the point of my post 4598 and the "sermon" at 4633.

In the passage, John 21:15-19, Christ reveals both predestiny and free will to Peter. On the one hand, "signifying by what death he should glorify God" and on the other, "lovest thou me more than these?" and "Feed my lambs."

The Book of Job makes the same point, the error of judging God, as summed up here:

Then Job answered the LORD, and said, I know that thou canst do every [thing], and [that] no thought can be withholden from thee.

Who [is] he that hideth counsel without knowledge? therefore have I uttered that I understood not; things too wonderful for me, which I knew not.

Hear, I beseech thee, and I will speak: I will demand of thee, and declare thou unto me. I have heard of thee by the hearing of the ear: but now mine eye seeth thee. Wherefore I abhor [myself], and repent in dust and ashes. - Job 42:1-6

Likewise the parable in Matthew 20 sums up the error in resenting God's will for us which, in the context of this discussion, would be resenting predestination:

Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? Is thine eye evil, because I am good? - Matthew 20:15

Man is not the measure of God.

For my thoughts [are] not your thoughts, neither [are] your ways my ways, saith the LORD. For [as] the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts. - Isaiah 55:8-9

To God be the glory!