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To: MarkBsnr

I use “RCC” as shorthand for what you call “the Catholic Church”, as it is based in and controlled from Rome.

The eunuch was unable to discern Scripture until Phillip - a child of the living God - explained it to him. The eunuch was obviously being draw to God as part of the conversion or new birth process or else he wouldn’t have even asked or have been reading. Do you think Phillip was a member of the RCC? Reference, please.

You project onto me something that does not exist - I demonstrated no “great respect” for Malachi Martin. He was presented as a “Catholic standard” - I wouldn’t know any of those aside from the in the news. He was a reference, a foot note to the article I posted. What is in error - historical record wise - with the article? It’s purpose was not to tout any of the authors who are foot noted, but to build a case to show the RCC version of church history is a.) not the only one and b.) perhaps fraught with errors.


471 posted on 01/29/2008 8:00:08 PM PST by Manfred the Wonder Dawg (Test ALL things, hold to that which is True.)
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To: Manfred the Wonder Dawg

Malachi Martin is not a Catholic standard.

The point is about Phillip is that he, as a representative of the Church, was able to teach the eunuch. Phillip was/is a member of the Catholic Church. The Catholic Church is what we call the Church that Jesus established. The lesson is that an individual requires that the Church teach him. The few like Paul are outside the Church and therefore outside of the normal processes of teaching that the Church engages in.

Catholic history is not fraught with errors; the purpose of the article is to create doubt, not to substantiate an alternate, true, history. It is very much like the Dan White book. Sensationalism without substance.


479 posted on 01/29/2008 8:13:23 PM PST by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: papertyger; Manfred the Wonder Dawg
I use “RCC” as shorthand for what you call “the Catholic Church”, as it is based in and controlled from Rome.

The morning's first observation:

The facts are that there are many churches in communion with the See of Peter, only one of them is the Roman Catholic Church.

The other pertinent fact is that the Vatican does not "control" much. It guides, advises, instructs, attempts to assist, things of that kind.

So I would suggest that not only these inaccuracies but their persistence in the face of the ease with which the truth of these matters could be obtained, these "go to" the pathology argument, and get filed in the same file as the problem with nuance.

501 posted on 01/30/2008 4:46:37 AM PST by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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