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To: kosta50; irishtenor; blue-duncan; Mad Dawg
FK, you said that testing helps [sic] to sanctify us during our lives. You are making a relationship between testing and sanctification, a is a function of b. But you neither prove the existence, nor do you define the nature of this relationship. If there is no testing, does that mean there is no sanctification? If there is abundance of testing, does that mean there is abundance of sanctification?

Kosta, I used the word "helps". No formula, no equation, just "helps". Is that really so complicated? All of us will be tested, and all of us will grow as a result of the testing. It is a good thing, even though we probably won't appreciate it as such at the time, although Paul DID. God tests when and where He deems appropriate. There is no scorecard. Scripture:

1 Thess 2:4 : On the contrary, we speak as men approved by God to be entrusted with the gospel. We are not trying to please men but God, who tests our hearts.

1 Chron 29:17 : I know, my God, that you test the heart and are pleased with integrity. All these things have I given willingly and with honest intent. And now I have seen with joy how willingly your people who are here have given to you.

Ps 105:19 : 19 Until the time that his word came: the word of the Lord tried him. KJV

4,637 posted on 03/31/2008 12:53:34 AM PDT by Forest Keeper (It is a joy to me to know that God had my number, before He created numbers.)
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To: Forest Keeper; irishtenor; blue-duncan; Mad Dawg
Kosta, I used the word "helps". No formula, no equation, just "helps". Is that really so complicated? All of us will be tested, and all of us will grow as a result of the testing

You wrote: testing helps [sic] to sanctify us during our lives. You are making a relationship between testing and sanctification

And I asked basically what happens to those who are not tested (because there are people who go through the entire life as such), or to those who are tested in abundance (because there are many more who suffer)?

And you didn't answer that with you "testing helps to sanctify." How does it 'help', and to what degree?

4,673 posted on 03/31/2008 8:32:51 PM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodox is pure Christainity)
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