[kosta50]

This is simply the classic "if man is not in control and leading God, then God causes evil" red herring

You can't have it both ways, FK. We can't be living under a delusion of freedom if everything we do is God's will. Worse, we can't be condmened for something that was preordained before we even existed.

If we are simply actors in God's divine soap opera, then we are simply acting out the script and our roles are not real us, nor are our words "our" words.

The fact that God in the Bible holds us repsonsible for our acts and words means that they are not his but ours. If they are in harmony with God's will, they are good. If they are contrary to God's will they are evil. That can be true only if they are our choices, not God's.

[Forest Keeper]

You can't have it both ways, FK. We can't be living under a delusion of freedom if everything we do is God's will. Worse, we can't be condemned for something that was preordained before we even existed.

As I said in another post, this is an example of the Apostolic definition of freedom, that is, freedom APART from God. Real freedom for good is found WITHIN God. ....... BTW, where is the rule that says God can't preordain whom He wants to be with Him in Heaven? Would that be unfair of God if He did that?